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225tt 10-24-2007 08:43 PM

Next mod opinions needed!
 
If I were to have a extra ohh lets say 800.00 laying around what do you think my next mod should be? Here are my current mods:

Giac 93/100 tune
Samco TIP
Modshack MOFO
Modshack BM
4.0 Bar FPR
T-Carbon FMIC
Spec Stage II+ Clutch w steel f/w
Phenolic Spacer
Gas Pedal Spacer (it works trust me)
Borla Cat-Back exhaust (edited)

SAI and N249 are removed along with EVAP.

Your opinions are appreciated!

theTTkid 10-24-2007 08:51 PM

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DP then brakes... then suspension... then w/m... by then youll need another job too;)

diehlryan 10-24-2007 08:53 PM

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I keep forgetting about the gas pedal spacer..

225tt 10-24-2007 10:10 PM

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Yea I got bored one day and decided to try it. It really helped me hold boost because for some reason if I push the gas down all the way it bleeds off boost faster than with the spacer.

.clipse 10-24-2007 10:36 PM

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i'd go DP > Suspension > brakes > w/m.

but id recommend maintence above all else


neur0tic 10-24-2007 11:01 PM

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Are you planning on upgrading your turbo in the future? If so, don't bother with the downpipe until you do unless you want to buy two of them. downpipe's arenot interchangeable between turbos. Different turbos have different mounting and placement and the downpipe inlet may be a different place or a different size depending on the turbo.

You should wait until you upgrade the turbo to do the downpipe.

If you can find a suspension kit for under $800, then I'd go that route... but you probably wont. Not if you're looking for coilovers anyhow (adjustable dampening and ride height coilovers >$1,100)

You could however get a front and rear sway, polyurethane bushings, dogbone mount, and DEFCON kit for your suspension for less than $800.

Also, you can get Redstuff performance pads, steel braided lines, and PowerStop Slotted or drilled rotors on front and rear and do all the brakes for right around $800 too.

Personally, I would do the swaybars, bushings, and DEFCON if I were you and had the extra money.

Downpipe needs to wait until after the turbo... and if you plan on going 350+awhp you might as well not go with the brake setup I mentioned because you'll want big brake kit.

**Edit**
If you wanted to get the W/M... you'll also need a Vag-Com cable to see any gains from the W/M.
The W/M kit only costs around $400, but there are quite a few things you'll need to buy seperatrely in order for the kit to work on your TT though (extra nozzles $40, solenoid and dual nozzle upgrade $75, rubber chargepipe adaptersx2 $40)
I calculated all costs for purchasing the kit and it6 came to right about $545. Add $249.99 for the Vag-Com and you have $794.00 (perfect price if you're looking to spend $800)

proxeyed 10-24-2007 11:14 PM

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I vote suspension. VMAXX coilovers are decent from what I hear. It sounds like you are pulling a good amount of power already (although as we all know, you can never have enough.) But my vote is for suspension. Bilstein PSS coilovers can be found for about $950, which is only $150 above your budget. But then, installation and labor... I dunno, but I think the car would be so much more fun to drive, and would look super sexy.

M FLYTT 10-24-2007 11:22 PM

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i say suspension...
weather you plan on going big turbo or not suspension is always a nice upgrade... sadly i havent done mine yet on the TT

I myself have some money so just to see what people would say... im gonna post up a poll as well.

neur0tic 10-24-2007 11:31 PM

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ORIGINAL: M FLYTT

im gonna post up a poll as well.

Why not just read the answers on this poll? I mean... if you post the same poll... you'll probably get the same answers... plus a few smartass remarks about posting the same question. lol

TracAction 10-24-2007 11:49 PM

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I am sitting here looking at the V-Maxx Kit that came UPS yesterday For the money very pleased with what I am looking at.

here was my logic for the V-Maxx right or wrong it was my logic

1) my 90k mile suspension is in need of a refresh

2) coil overs unless you have other springs to change out with the adjustment of rebound and dampaning then you can't really get the full benifits of the adjustments. Basically for a given spring rate the shock has a most efectiverange of settings. So to keep it all working optimally you need to be able to change the springs also? Have you looked at what that would really cost? the V-Maxx is balanced as is.

3) cost
V-Maxx retail $650 from stratmosphere
replace springs, shocks and struts (rough cost) 700-800
other adjustable coilover kits $1,000-1,800+


this weekend is going to be busy here putting in the V-Maxx kit, pulling the ECU to send out, replacing as much of the vac hoses I can and going to make a list of what looks like it may be next.. lol

I'll let you know how the kit rides

myslow1 10-24-2007 11:54 PM

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gas pedal spacer????????? i dont understand lol

i would say a dp should be next... do you not have an exhaust on it yet? I didnt see it in ur mods....

neur0tic 10-25-2007 12:23 AM

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ORIGINAL: myslow1

gas pedal spacer????????? i dont understand lol

i would say a dp should be next... do you not have an exhaust on it yet? I didnt see it in ur mods....

No... A Downpipe should NOT be next. You dont want to upgrade the downpipe until AFTER the turbo unless you want to buy it twice. If you buy a downpipe for a stock turbo... it will not fit on an aftermarket turbo. the mounting flange on the downpipe has to be made to fit thatyy specific turbo. Different turbos are mounted and positioned differently. they dont all necessarily face the same direction and aren't always in the same place. why buy the same thing twice?! I DID already post this up there about 4 posts ago... but I'll post it again now anyway.

Gas pedal spacer is basically a small block that fitrs on the back of the pedal to keepo it from going all the way to the floor. Our throttle on the TT is wide open with the pedal ½-¾ of the way down. It is not necessary for you to push it all the way to the floor to get full throttle.

myslow1 10-25-2007 02:07 AM

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ORIGINAL: neur0tic


ORIGINAL: myslow1

gas pedal spacer????????? i dont understand lol

i would say a dp should be next... do you not have an exhaust on it yet? I didnt see it in ur mods....

No... A Downpipe should NOT be next. You dont want to upgrade the downpipe until AFTER the turbo unless you want to buy it twice. If you buy a downpipe for a stock turbo... it will not fit on an aftermarket turbo. the mounting flange on the downpipe has to be made to fit thatyy specific turbo. Different turbos are mounted and positioned differently. they dont all necessarily face the same direction and aren't always in the same place. why buy the same thing twice?! I DID already post this up there about 4 posts ago... but I'll post it again now anyway.

Gas pedal spacer is basically a small block that fitrs on the back of the pedal to keepo it from going all the way to the floor. Our throttle on the TT is wide open with the pedal ½-¾ of the way down. It is not necessary for you to push it all the way to the floor to get full throttle.
i guess you are right...
touche!

neur0tic 10-25-2007 05:40 AM

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Yea, I wasn't trying to flame you or anything. I actually found a tuner shop here in Korea that will make me a custom fit mandrel bent downpipe for my 225 Quattro for $150. They said they have to actually machine a mounting flange for it though which will be an extra $200.

I was all over that like white on rice, but the tuner shop told me that if I planned on Upgrading my turbo later that they would end up needing to do the whole thing again once I had the new turbo so the downpipe would fit. So now I'm waiting for the Big Turbo upgrade before I do my downpipe install. Im really thinking about getting a 3" cat-back here in December though and that way Im only lacking the downpipe once I go BT in Feb-Mar 08.


225tt 10-25-2007 05:54 AM

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For the w/m I already have my own Vag-Com cable. I think that I will end up doing the suspention next, but I need coilovers with adjustable dampening and K-Mac kit. I know I can get the PSS9 kit but are there any other adj. dampening kits out there that are avaliable for the TT with Quattro?

neur0tic 10-25-2007 08:53 AM

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Yes... KW Variant 2 fits the 225 quattro

I still have not decided whether to go with PSS9 or KW Variant 2

Both have adjustable ride height and andjustable dampening.

The KW Variant 3 is almost the same price as the variant 2, but I think the variant 3 has too much control and I think it would make it rather difficult to get the desired settings, so I'll probably go with the Variant 2 if I go KW

225tt 10-25-2007 12:44 PM

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Hmmmm thanks for the link, by the way what is DECFON?

myslow1 10-25-2007 02:07 PM

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ORIGINAL: neur0tic

Yea, I wasn't trying to flame you or anything. I actually found a tuner shop here in Korea that will make me a custom fit mandrel bent downpipe for my 225 Quattro for $150. They said they have to actually machine a mounting flange for it though which will be an extra $200.

I was all over that like white on rice, but the tuner shop told me that if I planned on Upgrading my turbo later that they would end up needing to do the whole thing again once I had the new turbo so the downpipe would fit. So now I'm waiting for the Big Turbo upgrade before I do my downpipe install. Im really thinking about getting a 3" cat-back here in December though and that way Im only lacking the downpipe once I go BT in Feb-Mar 08.


Ya no big deal, i didnt really take that into consideration. The only way i wouldnt mind that problem is if i had a 180... From what i have read those dp's they offer on ebay are not to bad and they are cheap. So imo it wouldnt be a big deal to spend 100 or less and then have to do it again 6 months to a year later when and if you upgrade to a larger turbo.

neur0tic 10-25-2007 02:36 PM

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On the original TT, the control arms were much, much tighter. the original also didn't come with a spoiler. Well for safety reasons... they had some recalls and spoilers were added... and the really super tight control arms were swapped out with the current style. Well, the original TT control arms are some of the best performance control arms you can get because of how tight they were... they could just be a little dangerous for regular daily driver use (Kind of like the High Performance Orange Haldex controller is considered dangerous for regular use). for a long time, people sought out the old style control arms at salvage yards and part-outs. well now they are just about impossible to get your hands on. Well the DEFCON kit, is an MK! control arm emulator. Basically, its a machined metal bushing sleeve that fits into the race of the existing control arms and you put the bushings (OEM or Polyurethane) into the Defcon bushiong sleeve. It emulates the original control arms by basically making the "hole" that the control arms bushing slides into much smaller so it all fits together very very tight. The DEFCON kit comes in a few different variations; DEFCON 1-4 are the main ones. DEFCON 3 is an identical replica of the original "super control arm" while the DEFCON 1 kit goes one step further and is actually tighter than the original MK1 recalled control arms.
I believe there are DEFCON kits made by a couple different places... but modshack has one of the better sets. steve from modshack catches a lot of grief on here from folks... but he doesn't have any malicious intent with his products. I'd say the DEFCON kit is probably one of his best products though. For obvious reasons (if you've read any of the threads on here lately) the TTDA and VTDA get bad reviews here... but the Boost Machine and DEFCON kits are great.

The install can be a pain in the ass... (you need to pull the control arms, sand or buff out the bushing race, and press in the DEFCON adapter sleeves), but I would imagine the juice is definitely worth the squeeze on this one. Biggest thing is... control arms get so very oxidized just from where they are at... that doing the DEFCON mod gives you a GREAT opportunity to pull the control arms, clean them all up real good... swap all the bushings (swap out stock for polyurethane) and get everything lubed up and put back together. I have not done this on my TT yet ( i will be though) but I have done this type of work on other cars and I can attest that disassembling, cleaning, upgrading bushings, lubricating, and reassembling your control arms, sway bars, misc suspension subcomponents will give new life to your car and completely change the way the vehicle drives and feels. It's hard to describe really the impact it has... but its a good mod... and a good chance to give your TT some good ole TLC.

Here's link to detailed description of DEFCON kit

Here's a link to detailed installation pictorial on DEFCON install

my $.02

225tt 10-25-2007 06:52 PM

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Wow great writeup thanks!


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