B5 Models Please discuss all 1996 - 2001 B5 A4 topics here...

1.8 and 2.8 trans?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 15, 2008 | 09:38 PM
  #1  
a4r6's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 219
From:
Default 1.8 and 2.8 trans?

Are the 1.8 and 2.8 quattro trans swappable? Bolt pattern to the block? Obviously they would have different gear ratio's, but would they bolt up? Has anyone ran a 2.8 tranny in there 1.8?
 
Old Dec 15, 2008 | 09:58 PM
  #2  
ghost6303's Avatar
3rd Gear
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,158
From: CT
Default

a few people do. both 1.8t and 2.8 have 01A bellhousings and are interchangeable. if you put a 2.8 trans on a 1.8t motor you use a clutch for a 1.8t.
 
Old Dec 15, 2008 | 10:07 PM
  #3  
a4r6's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 219
From:
Default

.. auto tranny? putting a car together from the parts car and I wanted to know if they would work...
 
Old Dec 15, 2008 | 11:34 PM
  #4  
qUaTtRoA4's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,953
From: Redding, California 1998.5 A4 1.8TQM
Default

you can bolt up certain 2.8 trans' to a 1.8T motor...like stated above, you'd use a 1.8 clutch....

the gear raitio's are the same in 1st second and 3rd...but on the 2.8 the revs will be lower in 4th and 5th....
 
Old Dec 16, 2008 | 10:00 AM
  #5  
FASTER's Avatar
Tech Slut
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,150
From: Jersey Shore
Default

I know its already been said, but i run a 2.8 trans in my 1.8t... outer casings on both trannys are identical...
 
Old Dec 16, 2008 | 01:04 PM
  #6  
somebody5788's Avatar
3rd Gear
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 2,023
From: Warsaw, IN
Default

So the main differance in the trans is gearing right? The 1.8 is like a little shorter gears to help out w/ the somewhat less torque correct? Im just having a hard time getting a good deal on a 2.8 manual trans...
 
Old Dec 16, 2008 | 02:24 PM
  #7  
Mike-2ptzero's Avatar
4th Gear
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,274
From: Phoenix, Arizona area
Default

Originally Posted by qUaTtRoA4
you can bolt up certain 2.8 trans' to a 1.8T motor...like stated above, you'd use a 1.8 clutch....

the gear raitio's are the same in 1st second and 3rd...but on the 2.8 the revs will be lower in 4th and 5th....
For the manual the gearing is different for each gear. Even 1st gear is taller in the 2.8 then it is in the 1.8 manual transmission.


1.8t vs 2.8 and at 7k rpm for both
1st = 3.778 - 3.500 ------ 34.2 vs 36.9 mph
2nd = 2.176 - 1.944 ------ 59.3 vs 66.4 mph
3rd = 1.429 - 1.300 ------ 90.3 vs 99.3 mph
4th = 1.029 - 0.943 ------ 125.4 vs 136.8 mph
5th = 0.838 - 0.789 ------ 154.0 vs 163.6 mph
 

Last edited by Mike-2ptzero; Dec 16, 2008 at 02:28 PM.
Old Dec 16, 2008 | 03:30 PM
  #8  
qUaTtRoA4's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,953
From: Redding, California 1998.5 A4 1.8TQM
Default

^good to know....thanks!

it looks like 1st and second are pretty similar...but 3rd,4th and 5th have a pretty bug difference...

i think if my tranny goes i would like to go up to a 2.8 trans...hopefully not any time too soon tho...
 
Old Dec 16, 2008 | 10:11 PM
  #9  
Mike-2ptzero's Avatar
4th Gear
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,274
From: Phoenix, Arizona area
Default

Originally Posted by qUaTtRoA4
^good to know....thanks!

it looks like 1st and second are pretty similar...but 3rd,4th and 5th have a pretty bug difference...

i think if my tranny goes i would like to go up to a 2.8 trans...hopefully not any time too soon tho...
Yeah they are close, but when you start pushing the rpms up higher the difference really shows. To give you an idea of what I mean.


8k- 1.8t vs 2.8
1st - 39 - 42.1
2nd - 67.8 - 75.9

8500 1.8t vs 2.8
1st = 41.5 - 44.8
2nd = 72 - 80.6

Down side to the taller gears is that it takes longer to run thru that gear and longer to get to the same mph. Just jumping from a 2.8 trans back to a 1.8 trans my trap speeds went from high 120's to mid 130's and my ET went from low 11's to mid 10's.
 
Old Dec 17, 2008 | 09:23 AM
  #10  
28audi's Avatar
1st Gear
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 30
From: lake norman NC
Default

hey i have a 2.8 so if i wanted to do a 1.8 trans in there i could wats the diff if i did do that and HP diff plz let me know thank you
 



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:54 PM.