Ha ha, this is a great thread...needed a big smile this morning, so happy to troll-through.

Personally have both the 1.8T FWD and 2.8QM...neither is a 1/4 mile contendor, but bought them for what they are; reliable (for the most part) daily drivers. Only have gone overboard with the 2.8 with mods as that is the car I will be using the most. Not likely to ever hit the dragstrip, but will get some time in at the tracks someday with Sears Point and Laguna Seca within easy driving distance.

 

A LS1 is not going to fit into the stock body of an B5 and even if you stretch it forward there is no way to fit turbos, well unless you like them sitting on top of the engine like a blower. I have tons of friends that run V8's in their cars that came with them and guess what, I am faster then ALL of them. It isn't like I dont run against V8 cars when it comes to drag racing because I do run in some of the SUMMIT ET Series when I get a chance, I run in the pro class since the car is too fast for the sportsman class. Yes thats right it is a bracket car. For the import events I run in the heads up street class.

More reliable? LOL now thats funny seeing that I see V8's blowing up all the time and that doesn't even include all of the V8's that cant make more then 3 runs on the pink's shows without having major issues.

If we all wanted chevy V8 powered cars we would all be driving POS chevy's.

So basically your saying that all of your customers shouldn't go to your shop to increase their power of their 1.8t's unless they want you to swap in a V8 because thats the only way you think real hp can be made? Your name isn't "billy bob" is it?

 

well put ^^^^

 

Ive actually done the measurements before and it will fit with an electric water pump and electric radiator fan in front of the condenser. If your being v8's its simply because you dumping more money into your car then they are or they don't know what the hell they are doing. At the end of the day, a fully worked ls1 is multiple times a fully work 1.8t and no one should dispute that.

Yes the ls1 is far more reliable than any contender today. If you see v8's blowing up than it most like gen I and II small block which aren't nearly as strong. The gen III small blocks have 6 bolt mains and the strongest head configuration today. if you go with an iron block its even stronger. factory 5.3l lm7's have put down 700hp on stock internals. there is NO engine i know of that can even come close to that period.

I have a chevy powered car thats not a chevy pos. Its not even a Chevy at all.

No, not at all. I'm saying all my customers shouldn't come to me, spend $10k and wonder why they still cant break 12's. Im not saying 1.8t's cant make power. Put your self in the shoes of an engineer building a car who is not brand loyal (and despite what you think i am not brand loyal at all). If hes building a go fast car, which engine do you think he'll choose? The choice is clear.

And my suggesting the Ls1 in an A4 is purely to get you thinking about what would happen if someone did do it. Do you really think you would stand a chance even with awd?

btw my name is Marcus.

 

Danm, Im thinkin 8 pages now. The 2.8 will always sound way better than the 1.8 though so go ahead and run your 12 second quarter or whatever and il run my 16 somehtin in style listening to beautifull 30V music!

 

I don't know about the sounds better part .......

My full APR tuned 1.8t sounds like a purrrrrring cougar in heat ........ ......... Anyways it sounds like music to my ears.

 

700hp out of a 5.3 liter? Thats a whole 132hp/liter, not exactly mind blowing. A GTrs elim on a stock 1.8 makes 222hp/liter. Now let me know when that 5.3 is making 1177hp on stock internals.



If your customers are spending $10k and cant break 12's then they have some serious driving issues.

Cant say I will win or lose to something that doesn't exist. But it isn't like I haven't beat out plenty of V8's in my car or other audis.

 

i would really like to see you 2 race on the track. german power vs american power. i'm surprised this thread hasn't been moved yet lmao. onepoint wea you at? haha

 

1st im not sure about a ls1 getting 29 on the highway... but ok

2nd a much more useable powerband? audis 4.2 v8 can maintain about 90% of its power from 3,500-7,500rpms

3rd ive seen enough ideots throw piston rods when racing stock ls1 cars to know that the ls1 "threshold for power" cant always be all that great (and dont tell me how much power you can get out of one i know but im just saying its not invincible)

4th i hear just as many problems with ls1's than with any audi engine so dont say its that much more reliable

5th if the quattro system is so "dimwitted" then how do you explain audi holding many pikes peak world records and winning almost 100 races in a single season using the quattro s1. infact quattro had to be banned from really racing at one point. also tell me what other cars youve seen climb a snow covered ski jump in a comercial. oh and explain in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyKst...aynext_from=QL out of all the awd vehicles why the allroad is the only one to make it to the top?

and also im not saying the ls1 is a bad motor and you cant get alot of power for not alot of money. im just trying to say that the things youre saying about audis is a little "dimwitted". and why would you get on an audi forum to talk about ls1's anyway?

 

oh boy, i knew it was just a matter of time before someone brought ricer math into this. fact of the matter is a 1.8t is a 1.8l engine. it doesn't matter if its making 400 hp per liter. your still only gonna make around 800hp even if its bored over. i dont feel like making this argument over again so ill refer you to post 25 & 30 here : https://www.audiforums.com/forum/sho...t=85515&page=3

simply put, the 1.8t will most likely hit a wall around 800-1000hp. a genIII small block will do multiple times that. so its great that your making 300 or 400 hp per liter but your still gonna lose against a 1000hp contender no matter what size engine they have. at the end of the day an ls1, or any genIII v8 will make more power than a 1.8t and i think we can all agree on that.

so have i. whats your point?