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Subarashī Kao 08-25-2012 04:29 AM

chip 1st or k04 first?
 
so guys i am wondering what should i get first the k04 then chip or chip first then k04? i want gIAc since the shop is close to me. i have a 97 audi so it has the weak little k03 not even the k03s .

jonbonesjones 08-25-2012 09:20 AM

well they all go together. you need a chip + a ko4 + more to run a ko4 on your car.If your looking for some more speed without spending too much. Chip it

Subarashī Kao 08-25-2012 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by jonbonesjones (Post 1400727)
well they all go together. you need a chip + a ko4 + more to run a ko4 on your car.If your looking for some more speed without spending too much. Chip it

i was looking at getting the k04 file so i guess i have to have the k04 first to run that because i could be wrong but the k04 on the stock ecu would run just fine but if i get the k04 chip/file i dont think the k03 can run off it.

CMac019 08-25-2012 11:03 PM


Originally Posted by Subarashī Kao (Post 1400765)
i was looking at getting the k04 file so i guess i have to have the k04 first to run that because i could be wrong but the k04 on the stock ecu would run just fine but if i get the k04 chip/file i dont think the k03 can run off it.

I believe you could chip the car first with the k03 and then just have the chip flashed over to a k04 file once you purchased a k04... but you might have to send the chip to the company to be flashed over. But I'm not 100% sure so someone should confirm this :confused:

Subarashī Kao 08-25-2012 11:12 PM


Originally Posted by CMac019 (Post 1400795)
I believe you could chip the car first with the k03 and then just have the chip flashed over to a k04 file once you purchased a k04... but you might have to send the chip to the company to be flashed over. But I'm not 100% sure so someone should confirm this :confused:

well what i tough of doing was buy the k04 bolt it on use it like this for 1 week or 2 then go down the the giac/awe tuning shop (48m drive) that's close to me then get the k04 chip / file and save my self the headache of going back and forward, i am sure i can bolt a k04 and use the car i doubt the car would not run right.

kriptonik 08-25-2012 11:14 PM

You can run the K04 without the chip. You just won't be getting any extra power.

If you want to chip it first, you can upgrade to the K04 file after you get the K04.

In other words, you can go either way.

Subarashī Kao 08-26-2012 05:22 AM


Originally Posted by kriptonik (Post 1400797)
You can run the K04 without the chip. You just won't be getting any extra power.

If you want to chip it first, you can upgrade to the K04 file after you get the K04.

In other words, you can go either way.

wont i get charge more do? i would be paying for the k03 chip then i would hav:De to pay again to get it switch over ? or is this wrong? is it free? am missing something here? lol

CCA4 08-26-2012 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by Subarashī Kao (Post 1400881)
wont i get charge more do? i would be paying for the k03 chip then i would hav:De to pay again to get it switch over ? or is this wrong? is it free? am missing something here? lol

Depends on where you go for the chip. Some companies offer discounts for upgrades, some do not. Nothing is free lol.

bradtyler02 08-26-2012 09:17 AM

I think GIAC is known to give you an upgrade at a discounted price as you progress through your upgrades. If your ultimate goal is the KO4, then yes, you can install the turbo, then go get the chip. However, for the full use of the KO4, you need the PC16 file, which also requires new injectors and FPR.

But, it's become pretty common among people around here that the KO4 upgrade simply isn't enough power for the money, when for a few hundred more, you could get an elim kit, and considerable more power.

Just food for thought.

meloman 08-26-2012 02:33 PM

^^ completely agree. I don't advise anyone to spend money on a k04. If your looking at it because you're on a budget or want quick spool look into the frankenturbo. Basically the same price but good for another 20-30whp.

Subarashī Kao 08-30-2012 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by meloman (Post 1400943)
^^ completely agree. I don't advise anyone to spend money on a k04. If your looking at it because you're on a budget or want quick spool look into the frankenturbo. Basically the same price but good for another 20-30whp.

well see this is where i stand i just got my Audi A4 1.8T its a 97 so yes really slow, ok now the reason i want to chip K04 it's because my dad is going to give me his k04 and koni shocks so its a free k04 so snap why not!.:D

Now then, yes you guys are right i agree big turbo is always better i was looking at unitronic 415cc BT for that but you know one thing at a time lol let me start small am new to audi cant bite on more than i can chew so fast. does this make sense?

ImTheDevil 08-30-2012 10:38 PM

Then put the K04 in the car, and leave the ECU stock. A K04 is transparent on a stock tune. Collect the rest of the mods necessary for running the PC16 file, then send the ECU out for the tune while you put in the other mods. That way you only pay for one flash. Additionally, it gives you time to get to know the car and its particular quirks, and fix any issues, before you exacerbate them by increasing power.

Subarashī Kao 08-31-2012 04:59 AM


Originally Posted by ImTheDevil (Post 1401593)
Then put the K04 in the car, and leave the ECU stock. A K04 is transparent on a stock tune. Collect the rest of the mods necessary for running the PC16 file, then send the ECU out for the tune while you put in the other mods. That way you only pay for one flash. Additionally, it gives you time to get to know the car and its particular quirks, and fix any issues, before you exacerbate them by increasing power.

great that sounds good so i guess i can slap on a k04 and be fine ok cool cool ill do that ill let you know all how it all goes. thank you all.

bradtyler02 08-31-2012 08:55 AM

^free KO4... very nice. Replace the coolant and oil lines while you're at it. Check for boost leaks (search for it) before you crank up the boost. Make sure all your maintenance is up to date, like timing belt, tensioner, water pump, etc, etc, ad nauseum.


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