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ImTheDevil 01-26-2011 08:11 AM

Important extra step when you change your oil!
 
Last night devildub and I changed the o-ring on the back of my oil cooler (the one that seals the oil into the system). I cold-started the car yesterday morning and went into the house. Couple minutes later, from inside the kitchen, I heard my valvetrain hammering. Ran out and shut it down. Big pool of oil under the car.

When I dropped the belly pan and did some cleanup I saw oil dripping out from behind the cooler. OK, blew the gasket, no big deal. Picked up a new one and we tore into it. Cone to find out, while brittle from age and heat, the o-ring hadn't failed. When you remove your oil filter, there's a 27mm retaining nut on the filter shaft. The tension of this nut is what holds the cooler on and keeps pressure against the o-ring, thus keeping the oil in the car instead of all over the road/driveway/parking lot.

On my car, this nut had for some reason backed off the cooler, opening the gasket and allowing my car to spray its full complement of oil out in a matter of a couple minutes. Had this happened while driving, with 3000RPM on thr clock, it would've been gone in seconds and I'd likely have lost the engine.

Please, for your own sake, when you change your oil, take an extra few seconds and verify that this nut is tight. It's worth the cost of replacing your engine to take a few seconds to make sure it's tight.

morpheous 01-26-2011 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by ImTheDevil (Post 1281057)
Last night devildub and I changed the o-ring on the back of my oil cooler (the one that seals the oil into the system). I cold-started the car yesterday morning and went into the house. Couple minutes later, from inside the kitchen, I heard my valvetrain hammering. Ran out and shut it down. Big pool of oil under the car.

When I dropped the belly pan and did some cleanup I saw oil dripping out from behind the cooler. OK, blew the gasket, no big deal. Picked up a new one and we tore into it. Cone to find out, while brittle from age and heat, the o-ring hadn't failed. When you remove your oil filter, there's a 27mm retaining nut on the filter shaft. The tension of this nut is what holds the cooler on and keeps pressure against the o-ring, thus keeping the oil in the car instead of all over the road/driveway/parking lot.

On my car, this nut had for some reason backed off the cooler, opening the gasket and allowing my car to spray its full complement of oil out in a matter of a couple minutes. Had this happened while driving, with 3000RPM on thr clock, it would've been gone in seconds and I'd likely have lost the engine.

Please, for your own sake, when you change your oil, take an extra few seconds and verify that this nut is tight. It's worth the cost of replacing your engine to take a few seconds to make sure it's tight.

Good advice on your expence....does it also go for an 2001 A4 1.8T AWM ? or just a manual? :confused:

Andrew149 01-26-2011 09:57 AM

man you have been having issues with your car laltly its getting to that age

ImTheDevil 01-26-2011 10:05 AM

@Andrew - a little but not much. Only problems were that sudden oil leak and the exhaust. Tearing up tires was expected with my drop and camber. Swapping my vmaxx for S4 suspension with another member shortly though.

@Morpheous - any A4 could have the same thing happen. Check yours just as I did. The coolers assemble onto the engine the same way.

Andrew149 01-26-2011 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by ImTheDevil (Post 1281080)
@Andrew - a little but not much. Only problems were that sudden oil leak and the exhaust. Tearing up tires was expected with my drop and camber. Swapping my vmaxx for S4 suspension with another member shortly though.

@Morpheous - any A4 could have the same thing happen. Check yours just as I did. The coolers assemble onto the engine the same way.

man you and changing up your suspension im sure the s4 suspension is the best way to go period for driving around all the time and being comfortable with the family

bradtyler02 01-26-2011 10:29 AM

Time for that '04 S4 upgrade, Jeremy?

FASTER 01-26-2011 12:32 PM

Jeremy, the problem is that when removing the fliter, it sometimes turns the shaft/pass through tube just enough to loosen that nut. Ive actually pulled filters out that had that shaft and nut in them completely and then the cooler falls and you have to put it all back up making sure the o-ring is in place to. Its usually easier to work on from above by moving the coolant expansion tank (at least on the 1.8's).

That nut is the reason I own an oddball 27mm deep socket. its such a thin nut that using a box end doesnt make me happy.

ImTheDevil 01-26-2011 12:45 PM

I wish it was although I'm second-guessing that car based on the issues I'm hearing about, like fragmented flywheels and failing cam chain tensioners (which require engine removal to change). I'll research it more but if not that then maybe a B7 2.0Tqm. We'll see when the time comes. One car loan at a time lol

gotta say, I wish I had the bank for the 2011 A8L I was leaving stains on at the dealer yesterday. Black on black and optioned to $98,725. Salesman said he'd throw in a free keychain if I bought it lol.

ImTheDevil 01-26-2011 12:47 PM

Faster, I agree with you completely - that's likely exactly what happened. On the 2.8 the cooler is behind thr driver foglight so lying under the front of the car is the only access. The coolant hose clamps are a pain but otherwise there's nothing to it.

kayakman13 01-26-2011 12:52 PM

Great, something else to fear. ;)


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