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Old 11-24-2010, 04:57 PM
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I trying to diagnose whats going on with my car. Engine cranks fine but I dont hear the fuel pump turn on and I dont have spark when I try to ground out a plug on the valve cover. Where do I start? how do I test to make sure the ECM is turning on? Only thing I have found is that #29 fuse was blown. Dont know what it does.
 
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Old 11-24-2010, 05:38 PM
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Hm.. I'll go check what fuse that is bud, brb. ok, fuse 29, atleast in my car is the "engine timing" fuse, you should replace it lol
 
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Old 11-24-2010, 08:15 PM
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thanks man, Thats what I saw too. So I replaced it with a 15 amp fuse and didnt help the problem. Still cranks with no spark and I dont hear the fuel pump turn on. So far I know it has 12v at the relay when I stick a test light in one of the pins. not at the fuse though. Where do I go next?
 
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Old 11-24-2010, 09:13 PM
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Number 29 should be a 20 amp. That's just about all I know. If you have a code scanner you can plug it in and turn on your starter. It would make sense for a code to come up for that problem. Other than that I can't help anymore. I'm only 16 and I've had my Audi for about 4 months. Haha haven't gotten to that problem yet, but hey it's an Audi I should eventually have it. lol

Goodluck though!
 
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Old 11-25-2010, 09:16 AM
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Have you tried jumping 12v straight to the fuse pin and see if the pump turns on?

As for the relay, are you finding 12v at just 1 pin or more then 1 pin?


If it is relay part # 8D0-951-253/206 (22 200 117A) I have a brand new one sitting here that I got for a friend but he ended up not paying for it.
 

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Old 11-25-2010, 11:48 AM
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thanks for the help Mike. I just jumpered 12v from one fuse slot to the #28 fuel pump fuse and I definetely heard the pump turn on. First time Ive gotten that, so now I know the pump works. Also, I have 12v on pin 17 and 19 on the relay, nothing on the others. As far as I know I still dont have spark, but maybe im not testing the right way.
 
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Old 11-26-2010, 06:33 AM
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Do you have a MIL? If so, what is the stored code? I would fix the fuel pump issue (likely the relay at this point) and reset the DTCs stored. If you still don't have spark at that point, continue diagnostics.
 
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Old 11-26-2010, 10:54 AM
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I dont have a check engine light while cranking. Which makes me think the ecm isnt even powering up.
 
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Old 11-26-2010, 11:22 AM
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you don't need a CEL for it to store/throw codes. If you have a VAG scan it just to make sure.
 
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Old 11-26-2010, 04:56 PM
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somehow I missed a blown fuse. #32 "engine timing" fuse. Replaced it and it runs.
 


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