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makhack 06-19-2011 10:45 PM

Not Starting, Cranking, but NOT starting.
 
1996, Audi A4 Quattro 2.8 Manual, 248.000km (around 150.000 miles)

Problem:

Not Starting, Cranking, but NOT starting.

The car just staled on a stop sign. Few minutes before it stalled it start running crappy and lost power, like I downshifted from 3rd to 2nd and like it was running on 3-4 "cylinders" instead of 6 (little bit louder then usual).


Replaced:

Fuse checked. Fuel pump REPLACED.
I have a no knowledge if the fuel pump relay works. Relay number is 8A0951253B (208 on the top). Is there a way to check it if the relay is OK? I have the relay pulled out and ready to buy one, but what if it's NOT the relay. I have a Multimeter, so is there a way to
check if the relay is OK or is it possible that is the fuel filter? Fuel filter should be OK tho, because it was replaced about 4 months ago. (the old one corroded and start dripping fuel). If the relay is OK, is there any way I can check to see if fuel goes to the engine? Or could be some "other" problem with my car.

Any suggestions and help appreciated.

Thanks,

Dallas09 06-20-2011 04:27 PM

Im not sure of the pinout of the relay, but you can turn the car to on and see if you hear the pump run, or use your multimeter to check for power at the fuel pump. You could also remove the fuel line above the engine and connect a pressure gauge to check fuel pressure. Have you checked for codes??

cvbadass 06-20-2011 08:43 PM

I just had this problem, and for me it was a $19 ECU relay. I own a 2001 A4 1.8.

makhack 06-21-2011 01:55 AM


Originally Posted by cvbadass (Post 1319318)
I just had this problem, and for me it was a $19 ECU relay. I own a 2001 A4 1.8.


ECU Relay? Or you mean Fuel Pump Relay?
I order fuel pump relay, picking it up in ad day or two. Will let you know what happens.
By the way witch is the ECU Relay?

makhack 06-21-2011 02:12 AM


Originally Posted by Dallas09 (Post 1319269)
Im not sure of the pinout of the relay, but you can turn the car to on and see if you hear the pump run, or use your multimeter to check for power at the fuel pump. You could also remove the fuel line above the engine and connect a pressure gauge to check fuel pressure. Have you checked for codes??

Thanks for your help Dallas09, but the NEW pump is working fine. I replace the the pump because I was to fast and I was not thinking properly. Someone said it's the pump and I jump and change the pump before checking the relay. I check the fuse (it was fine) but I didn't check the relay because I was not thinking that the relay can go "bad" and also I could hear the pump from time to time being "more" noise then it suppose to be (at least in my opinion) before my car died. So when someone suggested that the fuel pump is gone and I could not hear the "noise" on the pump anymore I naturally assumed that the pump it's gone. So what did I do? Change it of course. I can bet any money that my "pull out is still in good working order".

I'm just thinking what would happen if the timing belt slipped or it's gone? Will the car still be able to crank?

Thanks

DOC_DEPALMA 06-21-2011 02:23 AM

It will crank but not start. Search compression test.

NickBroderick 06-21-2011 02:40 AM

EGR Valve could need cleaning, something similar happened to Aledelic and he said it helped when he cleaned it.

Possibly your fuel filter too, again from what I have been told.

makhack 06-21-2011 03:47 AM


Originally Posted by DOC_DEPALMA (Post 1319395)
It will crank but not start. Search compression test.

DOC

I should have my Engine Light ON if it was the timing belt? Right? I scan it with vag and I don't have any error codes. What's was your experience? I read that you had problem with the TB, so did you had the engine light ON? Any error codes? I'm really worried right now since I DID crank my car "few" times when it stalled. Then before I changed the fuel pump. Then AFTER I changed the fuel pump... I think you know what I mean. Should I be worried that I will have to "change the engine" or buy a new car?

Thanks

DOC_DEPALMA 06-21-2011 01:56 PM

Don't let what I said freak you out, I was just answering your question. I don't remember if my cel was on and I didn't scan it, so I can't say whether or not yours would be. What I did was I pulled back my timin belt cover a bit and saw that my belt was not tight, leading me to discover my problem

Dallas09 06-21-2011 04:02 PM

Does the check engine light come on when you turn the car to on?


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