My 3.0 quattro vs. VW R32
I know I didn't have a chance in hell against my buddy's R32 (bone stock ), but I kind of got pi$$ed at how awful of a spanking it was. I thought my engine was going to explode trying to keep up. Although we were both governed to around the same top speed, he had to keep slowing down so I could keep up. I think they should have designed the V6 for the B6's to have a little more sack without having to pay $5000 for a supercharger to get decent horsepower. I want an R32! j/k
Well his four wheel drive system is a Haldex system which probably weighs 300lbs less by itself, not to mention his car has 250 hp VS your 220 hp, and his car has a total weight of at least 800lbs less. What did you expect? Although i have been in a 3.0L with a full exhaust and a unitronic chip which made it close to 240 bph, and it was pretty peppy.
If you want to get back at him, race him in the snow
A Haldex system sucks a big one compared to the Torsen when it comes to wet/snow traction.
If you want to get back at him, race him in the snow
A Haldex system sucks a big one compared to the Torsen when it comes to wet/snow traction.
Stupid Swedish engineering. Nothing against the Sweeds, but keep your damn engineering out of my German car!
Same reason I didn't get a TT or A3. Definitely better than FWD, but haldex AWD is a misleading term... Torsen all the way! (mind, I do live in the northeast kingdom, snow has been known to come around from August to May...)
Same reason I didn't get a TT or A3. Definitely better than FWD, but haldex AWD is a misleading term... Torsen all the way! (mind, I do live in the northeast kingdom, snow has been known to come around from August to May...)
The Audi TT and Audi A3 "Quattro" is the haldex type, because the engines are both transverse mounted. I loved the R32's until I found out those are also haldex.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haldex
Vehicles equipped with Haldex AWD
The Haldex 4WD system is currently used in the following vehicle models:
* Volkswagen Group (Volkswagen AG)
o Audi A3 quattro
o Audi S3
o Audi TT quattro
o Bugatti Veyron
o SEAT León 4
o SEAT Altea Freetrack 4
o SEAT Alhambra 4
o Škoda Octavia 4x4
o VW Golf 4motion
o VW Golf R32
o VW Bora 4motion
o VW New Beetle RSi
o VW Passat 4motion B6 Platform
o VW Sharan 4motion
o VW Tiguan
o VW Multivan 4motion
o VW Caddy 4motion
o VW Transporter 4motion
* Ford automobiles
* Volvo Cars
o Volvo S40 AWD
o Volvo V50 AWD
o Volvo S60 AWD
o Volvo S60R AWD
o Volvo XC60 (Haldex Fourth Gen)
o Volvo V70 AWD
o Volvo S70 AWD
o Volvo V70R AWD
o Volvo XC70 (Haldex First Gen 1998-2001, Second Gen 2002-2005, Third Gen 2006+)
o Volvo S80 AWD
o Volvo XC90 (Haldex Second Gen)
* Ford
o Ford Five Hundred
o Ford Freestyle
o Ford Kuga
o Mercury Montego
o Land Rover LR2
* GM
* SAAB
o Saab 9-3 Aero XWD (Haldex Fourth Gen 2008.5+)
o Saab 9-3 Turbo X (Haldex Fourth Gen)
* Opel
o Opel Insignia (Haldex Fourth Gen including eSLD and more parameters for regulation than in Saab)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haldex
Vehicles equipped with Haldex AWD
The Haldex 4WD system is currently used in the following vehicle models:
* Volkswagen Group (Volkswagen AG)
o Audi A3 quattro
o Audi S3
o Audi TT quattro
o Bugatti Veyron
o SEAT León 4
o SEAT Altea Freetrack 4
o SEAT Alhambra 4
o Škoda Octavia 4x4
o VW Golf 4motion
o VW Golf R32
o VW Bora 4motion
o VW New Beetle RSi
o VW Passat 4motion B6 Platform
o VW Sharan 4motion
o VW Tiguan
o VW Multivan 4motion
o VW Caddy 4motion
o VW Transporter 4motion
* Ford automobiles
* Volvo Cars
o Volvo S40 AWD
o Volvo V50 AWD
o Volvo S60 AWD
o Volvo S60R AWD
o Volvo XC60 (Haldex Fourth Gen)
o Volvo V70 AWD
o Volvo S70 AWD
o Volvo V70R AWD
o Volvo XC70 (Haldex First Gen 1998-2001, Second Gen 2002-2005, Third Gen 2006+)
o Volvo S80 AWD
o Volvo XC90 (Haldex Second Gen)
* Ford
o Ford Five Hundred
o Ford Freestyle
o Ford Kuga
o Mercury Montego
o Land Rover LR2
* GM
* SAAB
o Saab 9-3 Aero XWD (Haldex Fourth Gen 2008.5+)
o Saab 9-3 Turbo X (Haldex Fourth Gen)
* Opel
o Opel Insignia (Haldex Fourth Gen including eSLD and more parameters for regulation than in Saab)
Can't forget it is the new "XWD" cross wheel drive system slaab is promoting. Its actually a good read, here's a little more info.
Haldex in use
"Haldex LSC" refers to the coupling system — its most prominent uses are in all transverse engine 4x4 models of the Volvo Cars and the Volkswagen Group (Volkswagen AG) marques: Audi (A3, S3 and TT), Bugatti, SEAT, Škoda, and Volkswagen (Golf), making them non-permanent 4x4s, unlike longitudinal engine models (Audi A4, A6, A8, previous-Volkswagen Passat), which use a Torsen centre differential. However, its short reaction time (only a seventh of a wheel spin) relative to systems like a viscous coupling, and ability to fully lock mitigate its theoretical disadvantage to a full-time 4WD (like Torsen) setup.
The Haldex LSC has been used in 4WD models of Volkswagen by the name "4motion", and Audi cars under the name of "quattro". The same labels have also been applied to Torsen-based, permanent full-time 4WD systems from both Volkswagen and Audi, which has led to confusion, and some heated debate as to the relative merits of each system. This is due to confusion over nomenclature; based on the fact that the original Audi Quattro coupé did use a torque-sensing centre differential (not Torsen, however), many fans believe that "quattro" refers to said type of 4WD system, not realising that it is simply a trademark. (It is interesting to note that "quattro" is also used on the Audi Q7 SUV, which uses neither Torsen nor Haldex; instead, it uses a BorgWarner system).
As can be seen, the Haldex LSC is used in conventional road-going cars, crossovers, and full-on SUVs.
Haldex in use
"Haldex LSC" refers to the coupling system — its most prominent uses are in all transverse engine 4x4 models of the Volvo Cars and the Volkswagen Group (Volkswagen AG) marques: Audi (A3, S3 and TT), Bugatti, SEAT, Škoda, and Volkswagen (Golf), making them non-permanent 4x4s, unlike longitudinal engine models (Audi A4, A6, A8, previous-Volkswagen Passat), which use a Torsen centre differential. However, its short reaction time (only a seventh of a wheel spin) relative to systems like a viscous coupling, and ability to fully lock mitigate its theoretical disadvantage to a full-time 4WD (like Torsen) setup.
The Haldex LSC has been used in 4WD models of Volkswagen by the name "4motion", and Audi cars under the name of "quattro". The same labels have also been applied to Torsen-based, permanent full-time 4WD systems from both Volkswagen and Audi, which has led to confusion, and some heated debate as to the relative merits of each system. This is due to confusion over nomenclature; based on the fact that the original Audi Quattro coupé did use a torque-sensing centre differential (not Torsen, however), many fans believe that "quattro" refers to said type of 4WD system, not realising that it is simply a trademark. (It is interesting to note that "quattro" is also used on the Audi Q7 SUV, which uses neither Torsen nor Haldex; instead, it uses a BorgWarner system).
As can be seen, the Haldex LSC is used in conventional road-going cars, crossovers, and full-on SUVs.
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