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Need help!
I am currently looking to buy a 2004 A4. I'm not sure whether to buy a 1.8T or a 3.0. I was looking through other threads figuring it might help me out, but i'm still not sure. What do you guys think or what would you recommend?
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Chaos covered this in that Newbie Guide. I swear we should *all* be putting that in our Sigs LOL
Straight out of the Newbie Guide V2:
https://www.audiforums.com/forum/audi-a4-8/newbie-guide-version-2-a-80968/
Which A4 should I get?
Depending on what year/generation you are interested in, there are several differences to take into consideration when it comes to performance, reliability and availability for future modifications. Quattro is a what Audi is most well known for when it comes to "options", and is most desireable over FWD . Try driving a FWD compared to a Quattro and you will know what I mean. They are completely different cars. It doesn’t matter if you live in a place where it doesn’t snow or other stuff like that. Quattro in my mind is a must when getting an Audi. Now which engine should you get? It depends on if you’re looking to mod the car, or if you want more reliability. The 1.8T has loads of mods and is more fun to drive in my opinion. The 2.8 is more reliable than the 1.8T but has practically no mods. It starts with 40 more hp than the 1.8T in stock form, but is also slightly heavier. The only way to get serious power out of the 2.8 is with a supercharger. But they cost 4-5 grand for a complete setup. Lots of info can be found out about supercharging the 2.8 at www.superchargedaudi.com Also more info can be found about this subject here: https://www.audiforums.com/m_355352/tm.htm
There is also a supercharger kit available for the 3.0 B6 model.
The newer generation A4's come with a 2.0T base engine and an optional 3.2 V6- both with optional multitronic, tiptronic, and 6 speed manual transmissions. And the brand new B8's that are about to come out in '08 have a 3.0TDI turbo diesel option. In case you didn't know TDI's are the cleanest diesel engines in the world, and the 3.0 is reported to get 25% better gas mileage and come with 240 horsepower and 406 lb-ft. of torque...STOCK!!
The A4 2.8/3.0
So you got an A4 without doing much research first and picked a 2.8/3.0 without knowing it had practically no mods for it, or maybe you just wanted the extra reliability but still want to mod it. So what parts are there for it? As for exhaust, there is Neuspeed, Decorsa, Thermal, Milltek, Supersprint, Greddy, Remus, and custom. For the 2.8 only Milltek and Greddy offer a full cat-back exhaust, Remus offers an axel back exhaust. The rest of those are for the 3.0. For chips, there is Neuspeed, GIAC, and Wetterauer. The Neuspeed chip claims 15whp for $300 but i kinda doubt it. GIAC's chip gives you 12hp for $500. NA engines dont get the kind of gains that forced induction engines do with chips. For intake there is Stratmosphere. For under drive pulley you have Unorthodox Racing. The last mod you can do to it is a supercharger. Pretty much the only major power mod for the 2.8. It’ll cost you around 4-5 grand, and you will be getting around 300 hp. Most people say you can't put a supercharger on a 12v, but PES said you can run their G2 with a 12v if your running standalone www.superchargedaudi.com has lots of info on superchargers and has group buys so you can get one for cheaper. No company makes a turbocharger for the 2.8 but some guys have made one-off setups so it’s possible. The downside is the relatively high compression ratio of the 2.8 (10.3:1)prevents you from running anything more than a few psi. So you'll spend more money and get the same results as the supercharger. Exhaust, intake, and a chip will get you about 20 hp. For a lot more detailed info on the 2.8 check out this link: https://www.audiforums.com/m_177186/tm.htm
(credit Grouse)
Straight out of the Newbie Guide V2:
https://www.audiforums.com/forum/audi-a4-8/newbie-guide-version-2-a-80968/
Which A4 should I get?
Depending on what year/generation you are interested in, there are several differences to take into consideration when it comes to performance, reliability and availability for future modifications. Quattro is a what Audi is most well known for when it comes to "options", and is most desireable over FWD . Try driving a FWD compared to a Quattro and you will know what I mean. They are completely different cars. It doesn’t matter if you live in a place where it doesn’t snow or other stuff like that. Quattro in my mind is a must when getting an Audi. Now which engine should you get? It depends on if you’re looking to mod the car, or if you want more reliability. The 1.8T has loads of mods and is more fun to drive in my opinion. The 2.8 is more reliable than the 1.8T but has practically no mods. It starts with 40 more hp than the 1.8T in stock form, but is also slightly heavier. The only way to get serious power out of the 2.8 is with a supercharger. But they cost 4-5 grand for a complete setup. Lots of info can be found out about supercharging the 2.8 at www.superchargedaudi.com Also more info can be found about this subject here: https://www.audiforums.com/m_355352/tm.htm
There is also a supercharger kit available for the 3.0 B6 model.
The newer generation A4's come with a 2.0T base engine and an optional 3.2 V6- both with optional multitronic, tiptronic, and 6 speed manual transmissions. And the brand new B8's that are about to come out in '08 have a 3.0TDI turbo diesel option. In case you didn't know TDI's are the cleanest diesel engines in the world, and the 3.0 is reported to get 25% better gas mileage and come with 240 horsepower and 406 lb-ft. of torque...STOCK!!
The A4 2.8/3.0
So you got an A4 without doing much research first and picked a 2.8/3.0 without knowing it had practically no mods for it, or maybe you just wanted the extra reliability but still want to mod it. So what parts are there for it? As for exhaust, there is Neuspeed, Decorsa, Thermal, Milltek, Supersprint, Greddy, Remus, and custom. For the 2.8 only Milltek and Greddy offer a full cat-back exhaust, Remus offers an axel back exhaust. The rest of those are for the 3.0. For chips, there is Neuspeed, GIAC, and Wetterauer. The Neuspeed chip claims 15whp for $300 but i kinda doubt it. GIAC's chip gives you 12hp for $500. NA engines dont get the kind of gains that forced induction engines do with chips. For intake there is Stratmosphere. For under drive pulley you have Unorthodox Racing. The last mod you can do to it is a supercharger. Pretty much the only major power mod for the 2.8. It’ll cost you around 4-5 grand, and you will be getting around 300 hp. Most people say you can't put a supercharger on a 12v, but PES said you can run their G2 with a 12v if your running standalone www.superchargedaudi.com has lots of info on superchargers and has group buys so you can get one for cheaper. No company makes a turbocharger for the 2.8 but some guys have made one-off setups so it’s possible. The downside is the relatively high compression ratio of the 2.8 (10.3:1)prevents you from running anything more than a few psi. So you'll spend more money and get the same results as the supercharger. Exhaust, intake, and a chip will get you about 20 hp. For a lot more detailed info on the 2.8 check out this link: https://www.audiforums.com/m_177186/tm.htm
(credit Grouse)