Oil Consumption -- ???
 

Car is 2009 A4 t Quattro. Since new it has been consuming a quart of 5w20 about every 2 months (I've been using Castrol or Mobil-1). Driving is combination city and highway, about 300 miles a week. We spoke to the dealership where we bough this from; they said this consumption rate is NORMAL.

REALLY? How about the rest of you, how much oil are you going through? Any suggestions regarding how I handle the dealer. Suggestions on reducing the rate? I guess I can bump up the viscosity, but I'd take a hit with fuel economy, I think.

Do we assume you mean 5W-40 and not 5W-20. So at 300 miles a week or 2400 miles for 2 months you are getting better then normal oil consumption. You can have the dealer do the oil consumption test but you are well within the normal range. If you read the OM you'll see that 1 quart per 1200 miles is considered normal for Audi. There are dozens of posts on this topic and everyone has the same complaint. Your options are to either live with it or trade it in for another brand.

it's normal, just add a quart of some 5w40

Look at it this way. If you do 15000 miles a year it will be 3 oil changes. In between each oil change you'll need to add a quart. So add 3 quarts at $8.50 each and it only will cost you an extra $25 per year. You can live with this .

Yeah, I goofed, I'm using 5w30.

Still, my buddy with a Roush Mustang; high performance and uses the same oil. His car doesn't burn ANYTHING.

This is a minor issue; With my older car (1980 BMW 500K miles.) I check the oil every time I get gas, and burning a quart every month is understandable. I still think it shouldn't need any extra between oil changes . . . but that's just me. Perhaps its a flaw in the engine, and most people have accepted it.

Thanks for the feedback!

It's a design flaw that Audi won't admit. Try using 5W-40 Castrol as the 30W will burn faster. Good luck

There are a lot of problems VW/Audi won't fess up to, otherwise gullible people will stop believing in the superior German engineering myth. lol
That being said, the bigger V8 in the Mustang needs to stress a lot less and needs to rev much slower than your smaller engine to keep the car moving. High revs result in more oil burning.

First off Audi has recognized oil consumption concerns and admitted an issue. There has been a dedicated repair in place for about 3 months now. And it almost every case it fixes the problem.

Secondly, a mustang and a european motor are night a day comparison. Euro motors are all aluminum with very small tolerances

But if you think just because you have ONE FRIEND with a mustang and no oil consumption problems doesn't mean a thing in the grand spectrum of things.

I advise you to do some research before going off on false tirades

2012 GT oil consumption 1 quart/2500 miles - Ford Mustang Forums

When i googled mustangs oil consuption there was no end to the threads and forums of complaints

[QUOTE=Audi Tek;1403843]First off Audi has recognized oil consumption concerns and admitted an issue. There has been a dedicated repair in place for about 3 months now. And it almost every case it fixes the problem.

Secondly, a mustang and a european motor are night a day comparison. Euro motors are all aluminum with very small tolerances

But if you think just because you have ONE FRIEND with a mustang and no oil consumption problems doesn't mean a thing in the grand spectrum of things.

I advise you to do some research before going off on false tirades

2012 GT oil consumption 1 quart/2500 miles - Ford Mustang Forums

Can you please elaborate specifically as to what are the fixes. I doubt they have fixed the problems but only maybe minimized it .How good is the fix , maybe 1 quart per 5000 miles or can they meet the 10000 oil change interval without needing to add any oil. How does the 3.2 perform regarding oil consumption.

Same thing here.. my '09 A4 goes thru about a quart every 2500 or so. No big deal really. We should always keep close tabs on engine oil anyway.

I'll admit though.. the lack of a dipstick bugs me! Depending on what my in-car screen says the oil level is just seems wrong..

Interestingly enough, my daughters MkV GTI with the 2.0t doesn't burn a drop..

You can buy a dip stick for this engine. I got one for my kids car.

My A4 Avant was going through a quart every 800 miles or so. It only had 83,000 miles. It was one of the reasons I traded it in - figured it wouldn't see old bones.

where can i get a dip stick for my 2009 a4? do i have to get it at the dealer?

ECS Tuning has it for $20

And nearly as much again for shipping/handling.

worth it. thanks guys!

I'm new and researching before I buy. I have a GTI 1.8 w/80K w/APR goodies that does not burn any.

Do I understand a B8 has no dipstick and should be expected to burn lots of oil? What is the fix suggested?

Here's what a local Audi contact told me - let me know how rare you guys think the cases are. The way I see things huge oil consumption is considered normal and their certification will only advise that swilling oil is normal.

"My name is X and I will be your Audi Brand Specialist. I received your inquiry about the 2009 A4. And you pose a great concern that maybe I can help you out with your decision.

Usually in these forums which I do read, sometimes alot of problems are due to pepole not knowing how to read the correct oil level through the MMI.

Audi says it is okay to burn up 1qt of oil every 1,200 miles. That seems to only be in rare cases. If a vehicle does burn more oil then this, Audi will make the determination of a necessary repair + then it will be performed. If you purchase a certified pre-owned car in this case, more than likely any resulting repair would be covered with you just owing your $85 deductible.

Again, this does not occur with every car, so keep that in mind as well."

Guess I'm thinking screw an Audi unless someone can give me some input. They're positioning to screw me - I have a 14 year old BMW 328 w/200k and countless track miles that barely burns noticeable amounts of oil in 5000 mi. Just beat the daylights out of it on a 5 hr drive at 85 - 90 mph passing full throttle at 100 to 110 and did not see a noticeable drop in oil. That's 10 hrs of crazy time. Want to go Audi but everything I read says don't do it.

Why should I?

I have a 2011 A5 2.0 TFSI, the first quart was at 4,970 miles! Since then I have put on about 45,000 miles and now use 6.34 qts over 8,978 miles! This car uses so much oil it should not require any oil changes as at the time of oil change it appears I am dumping mostly new oil. The specified Audi consumption tests are BS, as with monitoring my oil consumption I have only fell under the tolerance once in 12 times, there is not luck in getting below the stated tolerance. Any ideas on if getting a independent shop to perform a cylinder leak down test would serve any purpose?
Thanks, Kevin

That blows. I contacted Audi and had a 4 or 5 time back and forth. They will not admit they have a problem and point to allowable consumption of other brands as validation. They say they don't know how much the Fix costs because no one has ever paid for it.

I contacted 3 independent garage that service the big German 3.

One said 1QT/600 mile is unusual, but be aware 1/1200 is considered normal
One declined comment volunteering to do pre-purchase inspection and he would advise if I needed to walk away
One said I should avoid S4s, we're not fond of the 2.0Ts, they're expensive to work on and maintain - you need to stick to inline 6 BMWs

Finally got Audi Tulsa off their a__
 

Well, I finally was able to get Audi Tulsa to do something about the oil consumption issue on our 2009 A4 2.0T. I have complained and complained but just beat my head bloody against the wall.

My wife was taking it over for the 55,000 mile service and the low oil light came on. Perfect timing for once! I had already told the service writer when setting up the appointment that I just didn't believe 6 quarts of oil between oil changes (10,000 miles on this model) was ridiculous. This guy was new so he said "no, that is not normal" - despite the complete idiots that told me it was normal before.

The add oil warning came on after only 680 miles since we had last filled it up with oil and checked the gas.

They did not charge us for this saying that it was a "Goodwill Repair". Yeah, right. I didn't immediately jump down his throat but I wonder why they think I just fell off the turnip truck.

The one thing that has caught my eye is that, on the repair ticket, they say we have to "return in no less than 630 miles or if low oil light comes on". Then they will do Part 2. Of course, the service writer said nothing about this to my wife - probably so we would miss it.

According to the ticket, the repairs consisted of:

1. Replacement of crancase pressure regulating valve
2. Front main seal/bolt
3. Updated ECM
4. Performed part 1 of oil consumption test

I tried googling this TSB (2027731/3) and can't find it. I would really like to have a copy if anybody has one.

At least we might be making progress on this finally.