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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 10:06 AM
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Default A4 B5 K04 fuel injectors?

The K04 will go in next week. It was suggested to install larger fuel injectors.
What is flow rate of the stock ones?
What size up should I look for? TT injectors were suggested.
From which year?
What flow rate?
Bosch model number?
 
Old Feb 14, 2010 | 01:50 PM
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At last I found the flow of the stock injectors (assuming that my car (1998 AEB engine) has still the stock): 210cc, 4 bar pressure, EV6 connector:

http://vwmod.com/fuel.php

 

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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 10:37 PM
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I called GIAC to find out the part # for the injectors.. they said they run their program with ford motorsport bosch red top 30lb 310cc injectors and the best ones you can get are the 945's... I have 4 for sale, Make an offer.. I was asking $160 for 4 like new but I'd be willing to drop a bit
 
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Originally Posted by ericp1.8T
I called GIAC to find out the part # for the injectors.. they said they run their program with ford motorsport bosch red top 30lb 310cc injectors and the best ones you can get are the 945's... I have 4 for sale, Make an offer.. I was asking $160 for 4 like new but I'd be willing to drop a bit
Not sure what the 945 means.
Since GIAC requires to lower the fuel pressure from 4 bar (standard on my AEB) to 3 bar, I assume they haven't found a good fit that runs on 4 bar and keeps the injectors duty cycle in the range they want to see (lower than 80% (?) but higher than ??? %). Theoretically, larger injectors will just get controlled down; but I am sure there a lower control limits on the lower end.

Here is what I have (all have the EV6 connector):


A4 stock (AEB engine code, 150 hp) injectors (Bosch 0280150447) are 210cc @ 3bar (242.5 cc @ 4 bar).


TT stock (AWP engine code, 180 hp) injectors (Bosch 0280156061 ) are 317 cc (30#) @ 3bar, (366 cc @ 4 bar)


TT for 225hp, ( Bosch 280 155 811) are 362 cc @ 3 bar and 380 @ 4 bar.

(on 3 bar the TT225 would run max 70% duty cycle if the TT180 run at 80% for the same flow)

(on 4 bar the TT180 would run at 67% duty cycle vs. 80% on 3 bar for the same flow)
 
Old Feb 17, 2010 | 01:20 PM
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part # 0 280 150 945, ford motorsport injectors.. Call GIAC yourself they will tell you these are the injectors they use when they tune and the ones they recommend you get. 30lb/310cc injectors..
 
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The regular k04-015 file giac has is programmed to run on the stock injectors and a 5 bar fpr. The pc-16 file is for the bigger injectors.
 
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Originally Posted by ericp1.8T
I called GIAC to find out the part # for the injectors.. they said they run their program with ford motorsport bosch red top 30lb 310cc injectors and the best ones you can get are the 945's... I have 4 for sale, Make an offer.. I was asking $160 for 4 like new but I'd be willing to drop a bit

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Ford Motorsport/Bosch 0280150945 ("red tops") I found are EV6 connector style. My information is that my 1998 1.8T AEB engine has EV6 connectors.
I also found the same Bosch
Ford Racing B-302 30# "Red Tops" with EV6 ($168.50 new).

Are yours EV1 or EV6 connector style?




 

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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by vtraudt

The
Ford Motorsport/Bosch 0280150945 ("red tops") I found are EV6 connector style. My information is that my 1998 1.8T AEB engine has EV6 connectors.
I also found the same Bosch
Ford Racing B-302 30# "Red Tops" with EV6 ($168.50 new).

Are yours EV1 or EV6 connector style?





I believe mine are EV1s.. the more round ones, not the thin ones.
 
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Originally Posted by vtraudt
At last I found the flow of the stock injectors (assuming that my car (1998 AEB engine) has still the stock): 210cc, 4 bar pressure, EV6 connector:

http://vwmod.com/fuel.php

Correction: A4 B5 AEB has EV1 connector.
 
Old Mar 1, 2010 | 08:01 AM
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Default Injector: EV1 vs. EV6

Originally Posted by ericp1.8T
I believe mine are EV1s.. the more round ones, not the thin ones.
EV1 style:
http://kgparts.com/kgimages/kgparts/...v1injector.jpg

EV6 style:
http://kgparts.com/kgimages/kgparts/...v6injector.jpg
 



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