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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 04:34 AM
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If a plugs have not been changed on a 100,000 mile motor, like on my 2.8 v6 in my audi, could this cause detonation?? with no load on the motor, it runs smooth all the way through the rpms. with a load and hard acceleration (merging onto the highway) I can hear a det. sound or almost a ticking sound. not an exhaust leak, 'cause that would be heard with or without a load on the motor. any ideas??? would a bad knock sensor throw a code??? could a bad ECT sensor cause this problem??
 
Old Nov 14, 2006 | 08:58 PM
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Detonation occurs when excessive heat and pressure in the combustion chamber cause the air/fuel mixture to autoignite. This produces many uncontrolled flames within the combustion chamber instead of a single flame. When these multiple flames collide, they do so with explosive force that produces a sudden rise in cylinder pressure accompanied by a sharp metallic pinging or knocking noise. That is what causes damage to your motor during detonation. Try changing the plugs and checking for performance gain.
 
Old Nov 14, 2006 | 08:59 PM
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By the way what kind of gas mileage do you get? What octane fuel do you use? Another thing it could be is over-advanced ignition timing or a defective knock sensor.
 
Old Nov 15, 2006 | 02:39 PM
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One other thing that can cause detonation inthe combustion chamber is debris in teh chamber, as one might get from crappy gas, or excessive carbon deposits. The debris heats up, under the pressure of teh compression stroke, and ignites teh air/fuel mixture from a point away from teh spark-plug, causing detonation when teh two flame-fronts meet. When this type of culprit is present you'll often het "dieseling" after you kill the motor. It appears to want to continue running...

I agree with flip. swap in some new plugs... Maybe run a couple-3 tanks of SOOPER-DOOPER-ULTRA-HIGH-TEST-premium along with your favorite brand of octane booster/fuel-line cleaner...
 
Old Nov 15, 2006 | 02:49 PM
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the click noise is called pinking due to cheap fuel/gas or ignition timing problem ( 100k on a set of spark plugs well done ) knock sensor would throw a code but I doubt its that have it checked for fault codes or try better fuel/gas
 
Old Nov 15, 2006 | 04:40 PM
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the only code that it has thrown is for the ECT sensor. gonna put some new plugs in it and see what happens. always run 93 octane.
 
Old Nov 15, 2006 | 06:03 PM
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Use NGK plugs and Bremi wires.
 
Old Nov 15, 2006 | 06:50 PM
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if you have a code for your ect(electronic coolant temp sensor i assume?) (unless you meant EGT, then this post has no relevance) that could cause issues as well, the coolant temp sensor is a direct partner in determining your correct air fuel ratio. Example a shorted coolant temp sensor will tell the ecm it's -72(i'm not sure the exact audi parameter number) degrees out, and based on this temp it's going to be the engine too much fuel
 
Old Nov 15, 2006 | 07:20 PM
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I know the ect assists in determining a/f ratio, but I guess I was thinking that would just cause a rich running condition while the motor is cold. I currently have bremi wires and am about to go and pull a plug to see what the story is on them.
 
Old Nov 15, 2006 | 07:27 PM
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anyone know where the ect is?
 



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