lol that would be nice:



mmmm carbon fiber intake and plenum...


Ahh memories, Me driving the race car at the Honda proving grounds. Nothing like more acceleration than a farrari.

 

What size engine. the Formula team at a&M used a 3.5L V10

 

uhhhh different organization altogether. We used a honda motorcycle engine with less than 100 HP.

 

oh. yeah theres quite a difference

 

see thats what i tried to say the whole time that that **** is mainly for drag and fmic arent a fast & furious thing man. i knew this bc i made the mistake of thinking a liquid to air was going to be better for my street car and then found some more info concluding that it wasnt.

 

[sm=sigh.gif]W/E dude. you win.

 

"....many cars have been manufactured from the factory with water-to-air intercoolers(Lotus, Maserati, 198x's Mazda RX-7s Turbos.. ) and they work great for their applications..
so which is better.. depends on the application.. most likely Air-to-Air is best for street use.. however you may have a strange intake layout that would not lend itself to easy front mounting...." -quoted from my orginal post


so water to air is just not for drag racing.. like i said before its been used in production cars and works well for there applications.. and none of those companies build "drag cars".. but typically a front mount is better for street use IF you can use it..

UA Formula team..
and akron still used the old fashion tube frame chasis.. still works, not as cool as carbon though.. this year we used a kawasaki 600cc ninja motor.. last engine dyno run i think we made like 73 hp.. not the best in the competition but the curve was super flat.. check this link out for info on the competition and the top cars last year.. its a road and track article akrons car is at the bottom.. #58 .. the last 4 pics are of our car..
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=1585

and this one is our team website.. has some more info and a PDF file of a print road and track article...

http://coel.ecgf.uakron.edu/sae/formula/formintro.html

enjoy.. and your right nothing like rocket like acceleration..

 

Yea water/air is very popular in Europe and is fine on the street. If the water is cooler than the intake air its possible to achieve over 100% efficiency which is not possible with air/air. Also somebody posted getting you car a drink, thats not necessary the car does not use up the water, it cycles it through a radiator so eventually the air will heat up the water to the ambient air temp. At this point the water/air will still be more efficient than the air/air because the water is fooling surround the fins and will cool better than the air which is just blowing past the fins on the air/air.

An advantage which has been overlooked is that the water/air has the ability to eliminate much of the charge piping which will reduce pressure drop and increase throttle response (decrease turbo lag).
David K I suggest you go for it, I'm thinking about going that route as well.

 

water specific heat is 4 times higher than air, there for it takes water 4 times as long to get to 100degrees that air.

this is for audihere

 

would it be possible to somehow use the car;s air conditioner to cool the water or would that just be pointless