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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 10:49 PM
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Ft or k04 is the biggest I would go on a frontrash anyways
 
Old Dec 15, 2011 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by turbo kraut
Ft or k04 is the biggest I would go on a frontrash anyways
That was one of the criteria for my FT selection, but it's not really relevant to this thread.

This car is my DD so I wanted a high power-to-lag ratio, not sure I'd enjoy dealing with the lag of GTRS/BT especially since in normal driving I shift between 2.5-3K. And can't forget that SoCal has some pretty bad traffic which I frequently drive through.

If somebody found a prefacelift/1.8T/Quattro/manual A4 that was totaled from a front-end collision but still had a straight frame, or one with a blown engine, I'd buy it and swap my parts/engine/ECU/etc over. It's hard to find that combination of car in SoCal, at a respectable price and with reasonable service records. Hence why I settled for my prefacelift/1.8T/FWD/manual A4 at $4K with 110,000 miles.
 
Old Dec 15, 2011 | 11:39 PM
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a franken turbo is very close to power compared to an elim kit. nice install. you can't just not dyno it now. you have to dyno it lol
 
Old Dec 16, 2011 | 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by hiwords
a franken turbo is very close to power compared to an elim kit. nice install. you can't just not dyno it now. you have to dyno it lol
its a ko4 the most a ko4 can make to the wheels is like 280whp and thats maxing the shitttzzzz out of it 250-280 is normal to the front wheels for a k04

a gt28 is good for about 320-350


im talking about #s to the front wheels btw.


okay so here is the best ko4 video i found you can tell its moving but its mehhh
http://youtu.be/RlPWG2aAoLM

and the gt28 its really moving now
http://youtu.be/ZSVR-iOtW-8


and than what its like to ride in my buddies gt35 =D
http://youtu.be/zHPBUP1YEmk

and a audi gt30 looks like funn

http://youtu.be/t8JtWp1LFeA
 

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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by hiwords
a franken turbo is very close to power compared to an elim kit. nice install. you can't just not dyno it now. you have to dyno it lol
No doubt about that The challenge will be to find a shop with open dyno time that won't charge an arm and a leg, at a time that doesn't interfere with my work schedule. Can't say I've looked yet though...

EDIT: just checked out the shop's website that did the ECU flashing for me... They charge $80 for 3 runs on the dyno. But it's only Monday-Friday so we'll see.

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its a ko4 the most a ko4 can make to the wheels is like 280whp and thats maxing the shitttzzzz out of it 250-280 is normal to the front wheels for a k04
Wellll, it's not exactly a K04... More like an upgraded hybrid K04. And FrankenTurbo isn't just about the turbocharger, the kit also includes TIP, exhaust mani, and if chosen, 3" MAF housing and DV. You couldn't piece together a K04-0015 kit with similar components for less money.

But 280 FWHP out of a K04-0015 doesn't sound possible to me. Not sure that number is achievable even if it were at the crank.
 

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Old Dec 16, 2011 | 02:23 AM
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Wellll, it's not exactly a K04... More like an upgraded hybrid K04. And FrankenTurbo isn't just about the turbocharger, the kit also includes TIP, exhaust mani, and if chosen, 3" MAF housing and DV. You couldn't piece together a K04-0015 kit with similar components for less money.

But 280 FWHP out of a K04-0015 doesn't sound possible to me. Not sure that number is achievable even if it were at the crank.[/QUOTE]

you can get 300whp easily heres one and also spraying meth will make it easy to make 300hp... snow performance or devils owns meth kit

Snow Performance: Stage 1 Boost Cooler?

F23 FrankenTurbo 2-27-11 dyno testing - YouTube

and heres a local that lives by me running a audi tt ko4 at 310hp i wanna say it is

VW Golf GLS turbo 300+hp 150mph Washburn Motorsports - YouTube
 
Old Dec 16, 2011 | 02:40 AM
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What you're talking about it a different setup, the F23 is for transverse, and is based around the K04-023. Not apples-to-apples. That's why I said K04-0015. From what I've seen the K04-0015 in a longitudinal application nets ~210-215AWHP with the GIAC PC-16 tune and supporting mods.
 
Old Dec 18, 2011 | 03:38 PM
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Absolutely great write up! FT is definitely a great kit for the price
 
Old Dec 20, 2011 | 03:12 PM
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Gonna do 3 runs on the dyno today! My goal is to do the first run as-is, 2nd run tweak the AFPR to optimize A/F ratio, and 3rd run I want to replace my cone filter with the stock airbox.

Last night I threw the blow-through MAF stuff back in. So since the MAF will be in the same location whether I test with a cone filter or stock airbox, I can provide REAL data to add to the argument of cone filters providing zero gains other than noise. I'm really curious to see what difference there will be for IAT (and thus timing pull) between the stock airbox and cone filter.

Full log with RPM, injector pulse width, engine load, MAF reading (corrected), timing advance, intake air temperature (IAT), coolant temperature, and A/F ratio will be provided later If I try to log anything more than that the sample rate from VAG-COM will be ridiculously low.
 
Old Dec 21, 2011 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MetalMan
What you're talking about it a different setup, the F23 is for transverse, and is based around the K04-023. Not apples-to-apples. That's why I said K04-0015. From what I've seen the K04-0015 in a longitudinal application nets ~210-215AWHP with the GIAC PC-16 tune and supporting mods.
Odd thing is that it isn't the first time he has been told that. Not sure why he keeps bringing up the K04 setups for a transverse 1.8t. This is AF not Vortex. You might as well be talking about mars to people on earth. lol
 



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