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Old Mar 13, 2008 | 12:56 AM
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Ok, so I need tips or tricks or the right way of getting the timing belt on, I had itstrippeddown ready to put on in 3 1/2 hrs. Then continued to try to put it on for 3 more hours till now1 am in the morning. These are the directions I have for putting it back on taken from a DIY:



E4. Reinstall power steering pulley.

E5. Reinstall new TB tensioner pulley.

E6. Install new timing belt. This is what we came in here for! Hard to even remember after all the work so far! The Bentley calls for a procedure that involves partially removing the cam sprockets. This seemed risky and unnecessary to me so I took the extra time and hassle to fit the new timing belt without loosening the pulleys.

First, I started the belt around the bottom of the crank and around the idler pulley. Then I pulled it as tight as possible to driver side to get the correct tooth on the sprocket. I could see what tooth needed to be on but didn't have the strength to actually pull it on so I took the cam lock bar off and very, very carefully rotated the cam about 1/2 tooth to get the belt on then 1/2 tooth back to the original TDC position.

Then I kept the belt off the tensioner and pulled it tight across the top to get the proper tooth started on the passenger side cam. I could almost get the belt over the tensioner with the correct timing, but I needed just a little more help so I put my allen tool back in the tensioner to get a little more compression of the hydraulic piston. This, combined with the fact that the tensioner pulley has no lip allowed the belt to slip on.

Once the belt is on you can release the tension from the TB tensioner. The belt should be nice and tight all the way around with the cam lock bar still in place. Your timing should be fine.

E7. Reinstall serpentine belt idler pulley.

E8. Reinstall lower round TB cover.

E9. Reinstall harmonic balancer on crank. It only fits one way. Check to make sure that your timing mark still lines up and the cam lock bar is still in place and that the TB is nice an tight. Timing is good.

E10. To double check timing rotate the crank 2 full revolutions with a socket to ensure that everything runs smoothly and that there is no internal interference.

E11. Reinstall center TB cover, then passenger TB cover, then driver TB cover.


I have also fiddled with it myself but to no end, please help me thanks in advance and sorry for asking this for the millionth time again.
 
Old Mar 13, 2008 | 09:45 AM
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I'm not going to try this again until later this evening but l figuredl should say how l can back the crank off, and get it tight on the driver side but not on the pass. side before l get to the crank sprocket. Also I'm able to be either a whole tooth or that half a tooth mentioned above.
 
Old Mar 13, 2008 | 02:08 PM
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Have you tried to install the belt without the tensioner installed? I would try wrapping the belt around all of the cams/crank/pulleys without tensioner in the way, then install the tensioner with the 3 bolts. From there apply tension to the tensioner pulley to where the belt tightens around all of the teeth without leaving any slack between the cams and pull the pin out of the tensioner.

This is what I have done on my Mitsubishi... have not done my timing on the Audi yet.

 
Old Mar 13, 2008 | 04:05 PM
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I left all the pulleys on, & put the belt tightly over the crank, then feed it over the cams, pushed on the last part by hand, it was a little hard. Then installed the tensioner. Just make sure you have the belt TIGHT on the non tensioner side.
 
Old Mar 13, 2008 | 06:50 PM
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I just can't get this, 2k are you saying that its ok for the driver side to be a littlemore tight than the pass side by a little bit? cause that's what i'm getting. But I know there has to be even tension all the way around, and the real slack that i get is not down by the tensioner its up by the top pass. side.
 
Old Mar 13, 2008 | 06:56 PM
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I just can't get this, 2k are you saying that its ok for the driver side to be a little more tight than the pass side by a little bit? cause that's what i'm getting. But I know there has to be even tension all the way around, and the real slack that i get is not down by the tensioner its up by the top pass. side.
Drivers side TIGHT, not one tooth off.
Passenger side loose, the tensioner, is what tensions this side.

It's fine if there is slack on the passenger side, just make sure it's all taken up by then tensioner when you release it.
 
Old Mar 14, 2008 | 09:38 AM
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2k S4, thanks as always, I got it done, much appreciated. All I have now is a couple things to do before start up and we'll see if I did it right.
 
Old Mar 14, 2008 | 10:29 AM
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Hey ops, post your results, I'm interested to see how it comes out.
 
Old Mar 14, 2008 | 11:05 AM
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correct tools are very helpful like the cam locking tool

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edit:- Internet is very slow here[:@]but you wont be strong enough to pull the belt to set it up that's why you need the cam locking tool ( small picture but just upgraded system and digi cam and still getting used to it ) hope this helps though
 
Old Mar 14, 2008 | 11:17 AM
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mind you the net might be slow but it wont beat royal mail
 

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