1.8t and 2.8 quantification on costs
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RE: 1.8t and 2.8 quantification on costs
If you have no other options, a 2.8 is OK.
If you can find a 1.8, its a more fun car, and easier to work on.
Make sure either way you get quattro/manual.
They are both reliable if taken care of.
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If you can find a 1.8, its a more fun car, and easier to work on.
Make sure either way you get quattro/manual.
They are both reliable if taken care of.
At least 75% of forum users prefer turbo a4's to the v6. Most v6 owner either had no other choice, or did not realize the differences when they bought it.Brought to you by the commision for sensible audi ownership.
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RE: 1.8t and 2.8 quantification on costs
ORIGINAL: onepoint8tee
Real leather hardens and starts to crack over timeno matter how much effort you put into taking care of it. Leatherette is amazing because it looks and feels like REAL LEATHER, and shows virtually no signs of wear even after 100k+ miles/7+years. It can tear more easily though, so dont sit in your car with a phillips head in your back pocket. Real leather is nice and plushy, but after owning several cars with real leather, and now the audi without, Im all for the man made stuff.
Why is it that all, well, some ofthe 2.8ers think they can turn theirpersonal oppinions into factual data????
The 1.8t is a rock solid engine, sure there will be more vac lines to spring a leak after a long time ($15 fix) and various other parts the 2.8 doesnt have to break, but they are usually simple things to diagnose and cheap to fix as long as you dont go to the dealer and get your diagnosing help from here. The notorious sludge problems have been resolved in most cases, and I have yet to hear of a 1.8t with a blown head gasket which should be the worry of all worries. The 2.8 is a great reliable engine/car too, but dont be passive about the 1.8t just because you eitherregret not getting one and/or dont have sufficient knowledge about it
Real leather hardens and starts to crack over timeno matter how much effort you put into taking care of it. Leatherette is amazing because it looks and feels like REAL LEATHER, and shows virtually no signs of wear even after 100k+ miles/7+years. It can tear more easily though, so dont sit in your car with a phillips head in your back pocket. Real leather is nice and plushy, but after owning several cars with real leather, and now the audi without, Im all for the man made stuff.
Why is it that all, well, some ofthe 2.8ers think they can turn theirpersonal oppinions into factual data????
The 1.8t is a rock solid engine, sure there will be more vac lines to spring a leak after a long time ($15 fix) and various other parts the 2.8 doesnt have to break, but they are usually simple things to diagnose and cheap to fix as long as you dont go to the dealer and get your diagnosing help from here. The notorious sludge problems have been resolved in most cases, and I have yet to hear of a 1.8t with a blown head gasket which should be the worry of all worries. The 2.8 is a great reliable engine/car too, but dont be passive about the 1.8t just because you eitherregret not getting one and/or dont have sufficient knowledge about it
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RE: 1.8t and 2.8 quantification on costs
The newer ones do, I think it was an option in 03 between leatherete and the real deal and then 04+ had only real leather. Not positive, but I read something like that a while back. Most people cant tell a difference between the two though.
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RE: 1.8t and 2.8 quantification on costs
Real leather hardens and starts to crack over timeno matter how much effort you put into taking care of it. Leatherette is amazing because it looks and feels like REAL LEATHER, and shows virtually no signs of wear even after 100k+ miles/7+years. It can tear more easily though, so dont sit in your car with a phillips head in your back pocket. Real leather is nice and plushy, but after owning several cars with real leather, and now the audi without, Im all for the man made stuff.
Everyone who has gotten in my Audi so far has said something to the effect of "Oh wow your leather is in really good condition for a 2001" and I never bother to correct them and tell them its actually leatherette, because no one can tell the difference.
Also, the 1.8 gets much better gas milage. The ammount would save on gas over several years would easily offset any maintence costs, providing that you have it regularly serviced and don't wait for your timing belt to snap.
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RE: 1.8t and 2.8 quantification on costs
Yeah, leather does certainly have its disadvantages. Though I have to say I've had a lot of luck with the leather in some of the cars I've owned over the years (Volvo in particular held up extremely well). I've always loved cloth, but it's so hard to find in so many cars. She'd love to have fabric seats, so the 1.8 would work well for her.
Thanks to those who pointed out that the 1.8 is far easier to wrench on than the 2.8. That does matter to me, as I'd loosely classify myself as one of those shadetree mechanics. I know I'll be climbing under the hood of both this car and my A6, and just looking under the hood of the A6 gives me the ******* (and makes my knuckles hurt in anticipation). Bottom end torque, in this case, does not matter, as she's coming to Audi from being a lifelong Honda Civic driver, so no matter what she'll be happy with the engine. She cares about gas milage, so that ends up being a nod toward the 1.8. The other details are more relavent to me, as I'll be the one taking care of the maintenance, so the fewer Saturdays I have to spend with my ebows buried deep under the hood, the better off.
Again, my thanks to you all.
Thanks to those who pointed out that the 1.8 is far easier to wrench on than the 2.8. That does matter to me, as I'd loosely classify myself as one of those shadetree mechanics. I know I'll be climbing under the hood of both this car and my A6, and just looking under the hood of the A6 gives me the ******* (and makes my knuckles hurt in anticipation). Bottom end torque, in this case, does not matter, as she's coming to Audi from being a lifelong Honda Civic driver, so no matter what she'll be happy with the engine. She cares about gas milage, so that ends up being a nod toward the 1.8. The other details are more relavent to me, as I'll be the one taking care of the maintenance, so the fewer Saturdays I have to spend with my ebows buried deep under the hood, the better off.
Again, my thanks to you all.
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RE: 1.8t and 2.8 quantification on costs
so it looks like i was right and i dont car what everybody says, go with a 2.8, if your not a performance push it to the limit type guy it will be perfect. these guys bend themselves sideways to convince you to get the engine they got. do yourself a favor, get a V6!.!
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RE: 1.8t and 2.8 quantification on costs
ORIGINAL: mattn2005
so it looks like i was right and i dont car what everybody says, go with a 2.8, if your not a performance push it to the limit type guy it will be perfect. these guys bend themselves sideways to convince you to get the engine they got. do yourself a favor, get a V6!.!
so it looks like i was right and i dont car what everybody says, go with a 2.8, if your not a performance push it to the limit type guy it will be perfect. these guys bend themselves sideways to convince you to get the engine they got. do yourself a favor, get a V6!.!
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