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Old May 4, 2005 | 07:39 PM
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Dude, I dont care if your 50, your post speak for themselves. If you think your going to run fry a turbo every 3mth without ur bov you have, then you obvisouly dont know what your talking about. You are prolly new to audis and there turbo systems. I dont have a high ego at all, i like other turbo cars alot.But i know audis turbo system because ive ripped it apart, learn more the audi turbo system and then come back and talk.
 
Old May 4, 2005 | 07:40 PM
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another thing...
WTF does this mean? I run 15-18psi on my car every day. Have done so on two cars for a total of 4 years... I never had any turbos blow because of it.
If I didnt have a BOV on my car boosting 15psi I would be going though a turbo at least every 3 months.
Thats because you have a DV or a BOV whatever you want to call it. i am trying to say that if you have neither you will mess up your turbo. In case you didnt know all BOV's that I know of are closed at idle, why would you want it otherwise? That guy was insulting me because he was insinuating that I know everything about turbos. "Stop acting like your a turbo gu ruu"
 
Old May 4, 2005 | 07:42 PM
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You obvisouly dont if you think running 15psi to 18psi is big ****, and you will fry a turbo every 3mth without a bov, i run 23psi, with a bigger turbo, and im not frying any turbos?
 
Old May 4, 2005 | 07:46 PM
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Dude, I dont care if your 50, your post speak for themselves. If you think your going to run fry a turbo every 3mth without ur bov you have, then you obvisouly dont know what your talking about. You are prolly new to audis and there turbo systems. I dont have a high ego at all, i like other turbo cars alot.But i know audis turbo system because ive ripped it apart, learn more the audi turbo system and then come back and talk.
DV and BOV do the same thing they release pressure form the system so as to not damage the turbo. My car came with a DV but it wasn't holding the pressure at boost so it had to be swapped out for somthing that would hold pressure. So I bought a BOV that had a recirculating kit. Works the same as a DV, just releases more pressure.

Why is it everyone trys to slam someone here and look cool on the internet? I guess this isn't an informative message board.

What a great welcome from everyone. If its gonna be like this all the time I rather not be around all these over inflated heads.

GO ASK ANYONE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO YOUR TURBO IF YOU DID NOT HAVE A WAY OF RELEASING PRESSURE BEFORE IT GETS BACK TO YOUR TURBO WHEN YOU CLOSE THE THROTTLE. Wether its a DV or a BOV, same thing... one is commonly recirculated and the other is not but they both release pressure before it gets back to the turbo. Is everyone here that close minded?
 
Old May 4, 2005 | 07:47 PM
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Dude shut up, you want a pitty party or something. Your post were not accurte, people were just explaining it you.
 
Old May 4, 2005 | 07:48 PM
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another thing...
WTF does this mean? I run 15-18psi on my car every day. Have done so on two cars for a total of 4 years... I never had any turbos blow because of it.
If I didnt have a BOV on my car boosting 15psi I would be going though a turbo at least every 3 months.
Thats because you have a DV or a BOV whatever you want to call it. i am trying to say that if you have neither you will mess up your turbo. In case you didnt know all BOV's that I know of are closed at idle, why would you want it otherwise? That guy was insulting me because he was insinuating that I know everything about turbos. "Stop acting like your a turbo gu ruu"
Every turbo system either has a DV or a BOV. Whether or not its a DV or a BOV depends on how the system is designed. In Audi's case, it needs a Diverter Valve to recirculate the air in order to prevent maf readings from going awry. If that air was vented to the atmosphere, it would cause the MAF to rich-out the A/F ratio, in turn fouling plugs, fouling the cat, reducing gas mileage, reducing performance.

If your DV was not holding pressure at boost then you should have upgraded your DV - a BOV was not the answer to your problem.

A BOV will work with other manufacturers the way it is supposed to because the maf system is different. Most japanese cars have systems that can be manually manipulated and are fine for BOV, boost controllers, etc...

In regards to the "insulting" remark... I thought you were responding to TomRitt...

This board can be very informative - you have to leave your sensitive side at the door though. You may think your right, but that doesn't mean you can't learn something. No one here has really insulted you. A lot of information has passed your way, but all you do is cry about how no one wants to agree with you.
 
Old May 4, 2005 | 07:51 PM
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Did you not read that I said recirculated? RECIRCULATED MEANS TO PUT THE AIR BACK IN THE SYSTEM KEEPING IT CLOSED.
Be careful to read before you start insulting someone.

By they way DV and BOV are the same thing. I have my BOV recirculated so there is no difference. An aftermarket BOV is better at releasing pressure.
I DID READ THAT WHICH IS WHY I SAID THAT, WHICH IS WHY I SAID IT WILL RUN RICH EVEN WHEN REROUTED. READ MY FULL POST AND TAKE 2 DEEP BREATHES BEFORE POSTING EVER AGAIN! Unfortunatly you are right about me being wrong in that it will run rich at idle, i was not thinking right, it will not run rich at idle. On the under hand I dont see why anyone would run a bov as a dv. Whats the point? why not just get a dv. I'm not trying to poke fun at you, I'm just curious why you went that route
 
Old May 4, 2005 | 07:59 PM
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another thing...
WTF does this mean? I run 15-18psi on my car every day. Have done so on two cars for a total of 4 years... I never had any turbos blow because of it.
If I didnt have a BOV on my car boosting 15psi I would be going though a turbo at least every 3 months.
Thats because you have a DV or a BOV whatever you want to call it. i am trying to say that if you have neither you will mess up your turbo. In case you didnt know all BOV's that I know of are closed at idle, why would you want it otherwise? That guy was insulting me because he was insinuating that I know everything about turbos. "Stop acting like your a turbo gu ruu"
Every turbo system either has a DV or a BOV. Whether or not its a DV or a BOV depends on how the system is designed. In Audi's case, it needs a Diverter Valve to recirculate the air in order to prevent maf readings from going awry. If that air was vented to the atmosphere, it would cause the MAF to rich-out the A/F ratio, in turn fouling plugs, fouling the cat, reducing gas mileage, reducing performance.

If your DV was not holding pressure at boost then you should have upgraded your DV - a BOV was not the answer to your problem.

A BOV will work with other manufacturers the way it is supposed to because the maf system is different. Most japanese cars have systems that can be manually manipulated and are fine for BOV, boost controllers, etc...

In regards to the "insulting" remark... I thought you were responding to TomRitt...

This board can be very informative - you have to leave your sensitive side at the door though. You may think your right, but that doesn't mean you can't learn something. No one here has really insulted you. A lot of information has passed your way, but all you do is cry about how no one wants to agree with you.
Jesus Christ I agree with everything you say man but what you guys dont want to agree with is that you need somthing to release pressure before the turbo. My BOV releases that pressure and shoves it back in the intake stream before the MAF. I don't know of any car that responds well to a vented BOV especially if their is a MAF sensor.

TomRitt: why will it run richer if the system is not losing any air? Doesn't a DV place the air back into the intake stream?
 
Old May 4, 2005 | 08:04 PM
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Yeah, and a BOV and a DV arent the same thing... although you might be able to make your BOV recirculate, you wont have a DV release air into the atmosphere, now will you?

So basically, you were saying that if you run NEITHER, you'll damage your turbo... wow, thats informative. I was just about to take off my DV and crimp the hoses until you said that! Everybody here is right... your stock DV died, and you ran to BOV, which was unneccessary, you probably paid more than you needed to as well, since most of us can get by with the 710N.

This post, is about swapping a perfectly fine DV for a BOV soley for an increase is noise... so this guy will have the air being released into the atmosphere, or "blown off"... so he will encounter the problems that have been mentioned, and he should NOT install a BOV for that reason. I think audiboy was the guy who said use a BOV if you're running a custom setup, and HUGE turbo... thats more than 15 lbs of boost, durrr....

 
Old May 4, 2005 | 08:10 PM
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Jesus Christ I agree with everything you say man but what you guys dont want to agree with is that you need somthing to release pressure before the turbo. My BOV releases that pressure and shoves it back in the intake stream before the MAF. I don't know of any car that responds well to a vented BOV especially if their is a MAF sensor.

TomRitt: why will it run richer if the system is not losing any air? Doesn't a DV place the air back into the intake stream?
Well, your BOV is performing the functions of a DV. The DV IS what normally DIVERTS pressure before the turbo. You let off the gas, the diverter valve takes the spooled boost and throws it back to the airbox, saving your turbo from overboost. So yes I agree that something needs to divert the pressure before the turbo. The car comes with something that does that called the Diverter Valve (aka Bypass Valve). If you increase boost, simply upgrade the DV (aftermarket DV's have the ability to upgrade the coil spring in the valve) - you don't need a BOV.

You would do better to sell that BOV off, and buy a $30 710N DV. Make yourself some cash, since you are not using the BOV functionality anyway.
 



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