I recently read many of the consumer complaints about defective manufacturing, as well as, recalls and TSB's at the NHTSA Internet site. Apart from the apparent politically motivated prejudice against consumers (one realizes that rather quickly when hearing of so many software created computer problems with the newer vehicles), regardless of how caring the government apears to be, the fact is, that the automotive industry is so massive that combined with the energy and insurance industries, a consumer has no chance of getting the government to do anything that is going to stifle anyone of them. So, I was hoping to get the true scoop from the horses mouth - ya'll here at the Audi enthusiasts forum. I must say that the word enthusiasts makes me think it is synonymous with supporter, and wonder if I am barking up the wrong tree - then again, no body seems to post about not having problems, also a huge factor to consider.

I am very hesitant to buy any late model car now, because I am reading about too may speed control issues from all the manufacturers, ranging from cars ramming themselves into walls despite the drivers trying to stop it, to the totally opposite problem of a 2-3 second throttle bog down freeze up.

Air bags also seem to be a big problem now for all mfrs., and I am reading about way too many tranny problems also. Its got to be the introduction of software into vehicles - I never operated any home computer with software that wasn't having some major problem sooner or later, or constantly annoying small problems.

One guy who had an A4 turbo said it just quit in an intersection for about 2-3 seconds and Audi's final word was, "Sorry it was designed that way." Hmmm ... nothing worse than a design flaw.

Never owned an Audi yet but I find them worth looking into, at least until I can find a major reason to condemn them. I am really impressed with Jap reliability but I am starting to see that even Toyota is having these same issues previously mentioned, air bags going off and causing accidents, speed control issues, tranny problems. So maybe the Japs were overrated on reliability.

But how is Audi as a company on honesty in 2007? I know the worst thing for the Japs is to be found dishonorable and I think their honesty shows in their products. Iknow thatVW finally admitted that their first Bosch FI system used on the 68-70 VW Beetles suffered from a design flaw that was not repairable - all those good faith ownersgot ripped off. VW refused to take the hit for the loss. I know, because I used to repair VW bugs and I only worked on those with carburetors. I resented VW for trying to evadethe truth ...Isn't Audi and VW one and the same company?

Regards, diyer

 

what ?

 

+1

 

Lol. if you took the time to read, you would get it. haha so ya.

Fact: The more things there are the more things that can go wrong.

there are lots more things in cars controlled by computers now, making more to go wrong. relating it to your home computer isnt as honest tho. Car computers are build adn designed to do one thing adn one thing only. computers at home must to many things, accept many different components, and work with many different setups.

relate the car computer to a game console. even tho a car system is even more reliable because a game console must accept many diferent games, but their close. how often does a game console freeze up? almost never. going back to simpler game comsoles, NES, SNES, the only problem ever was dust in teh cartridges.

so to the reliability, their quite. a point i like to allways make is that millions of people every day get new cars. if this was a big issue, that wouldnt be so. becuase 99.99% of those people have NO idea WHATSOEVER what their doing with a car. adn if it doesnt work, they dont get to school or wherever.

issues liek that with car, it dieing and such are verrry rare. generally those are what we call LEMON cars. they just have issues. when that is the case, you can alllllways get audi or whatever company to fix it. they will argue at first, but u just gotta thow ur ***** down on the table and make em do it. becuase 99% of the time, they will if you dont back down.

 

live the rest of your life in fear! Do not take risks and buy things that make you happy, it will only distract you from the inevitable!

OK, that aside, the best thing I did for myself since graduation was buy my A4. It's really the only thing that makes me grin! Get one and read the doorjam to make sure it was built in Germany and not Mexico for example.

 

haha +2

Dumb question but does it say "made in ingolstadt" or something? lol

 

Were you serious, are some Audi vehicles made in Mexico?

diyer

 

I had a friend that had her VW Golf assembled in Mexico. It was nothing but headaches so when I bought my A4 I made sure it wasn't made there. I honestly don't know if any Audis are.

 

DBW does not cause a 2-3 second delay, that is a very big exaggeration although it does cause a .6 of a second delay, and the same system that controls the throttle causing the delay is causing the throttle issues people are calling cruise control issues. The tranny problems toyota is/has been having is only on the brand new v6 motor and 6speed auto tranny.......HERES A WORD OF ADVISE FROM A TOYOTA TECH NEVER BY THE FIRST YEAR OF A BODY STYLE OR MOTOR GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO IRON OUT THE PROBLEMS IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE A GINNI PIG. I bought a brand new Ford ZX2 the first year they came out, everything was great untill winter time came, once winter hit and the temp. outside dropped to 6 degrees the car wouldn't start, I took it to the dealership when it would (of course it was warmer then) and of course the couldn't duplicate the problem. After 2 years of them telling me once or twice a month nothing was wrong with my car Ford finally admitted that they had improper clearances in the motor and when it was too cold the motor would litterally freeze up. All car manufacturers have issues with all models. The reason you see more problems with new car is because of the government passing laws that car manufacturers have to obide by and these things go wrong. At toyota 95% of the CEL problems are due to a emmisions component, why because the EPA says gas vapors must not be released from a car but if you have a 76 nova pumping black smoke out the exhaust there is no CEL and on a 2002 carolla pumping black smoke out of the back end theCEL would be on. The more advanced the cars get the more problems you will see because it's not just a frame and a motor anymore. If you don't want problems buy a car after it has been out a couple of years or by a car built in the 80's or before and dump huge amounts of money in it to keep it running. Also while working at Toyota I have only seen 3 trannys replaced under warranty due to the issues you are talking about out of the thousands of these trannys that I have seen.

 

If the Jap cars impress you.....move on andpurchase one