NHTSA reliability and design concerns
OK, you're a hater of some sort I just can't figure out why.
Back in the day we all drove black cars and ran rubber tires but someone came along and improved things with color and pneumatic tires. The point is progress is progress - don't be like the people in parts of the world that shun it because of tradition, religion or whatever. We're here to grow as individuals and as a society. Just because everything was manually controlled or mechanically linked years ago doesn't mean what we have now isn't an improvement. Most of the changes are for the good, whether it's to reduce engine wear or save the environment. And guess what, my kids may not even get the chance to drive a gasoline powered car and I'll be sitting there on some forum complaining about how no one knows what real power is because in my day we used controlled explosions to get somewhere. Let it go, man.
Back in the day we all drove black cars and ran rubber tires but someone came along and improved things with color and pneumatic tires. The point is progress is progress - don't be like the people in parts of the world that shun it because of tradition, religion or whatever. We're here to grow as individuals and as a society. Just because everything was manually controlled or mechanically linked years ago doesn't mean what we have now isn't an improvement. Most of the changes are for the good, whether it's to reduce engine wear or save the environment. And guess what, my kids may not even get the chance to drive a gasoline powered car and I'll be sitting there on some forum complaining about how no one knows what real power is because in my day we used controlled explosions to get somewhere. Let it go, man.
The only eletronic input from the driver to the car is the throttle. That didn't even start until 2000. The steering and brakes are mechanical with some computers being able to override certain aspects, such as ABS and traction control. I hate to think of all the classic cars that got into accidents because the driver forgot to pump the brakes and skidded into a ditch or took a turn too fast and spun into a light pole.
I'm under the assumption that Audi put dbw into their cars is to protect the engine. There's plenty of sensors on the car to let the ECU know where there's an unsafe operation (like a lean condition from clogged fuel injectors). The dbw allows the ECU to ease the engine load so it won't suffer from a catostrophic failure, like the motor spitting a rod through the block.
For your VAG-COM question, when you purchase a VAG-COM, you the software, an obd port cable, and tons of tech support. That's it. I'm not sure what picture you're referring to, but it's probably something to the effect of, "Don't pay thousands for a professional device like this!" type picture.
I'm under the assumption that Audi put dbw into their cars is to protect the engine. There's plenty of sensors on the car to let the ECU know where there's an unsafe operation (like a lean condition from clogged fuel injectors). The dbw allows the ECU to ease the engine load so it won't suffer from a catostrophic failure, like the motor spitting a rod through the block.
For your VAG-COM question, when you purchase a VAG-COM, you the software, an obd port cable, and tons of tech support. That's it. I'm not sure what picture you're referring to, but it's probably something to the effect of, "Don't pay thousands for a professional device like this!" type picture.
if your afraid of late model cars cuz of all the "electronic gizmo" and possibilities of it going wrong than you my friend are a ***** and need to locate your ***** ASAP
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Instead of searching the internet and spending all your life typing manifestos, go out and test drive cars and see which ones you like.
Instead of searching the internet and spending all your life typing manifestos, go out and test drive cars and see which ones you like.
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