Check this out...

http://www.performancecarnews.com/Fa...cess=ShowTable

 

i was looking at the 09 tt and how is it going to be turbo supercharged?

 

At 6'4 275 I would crush an exige and it'd lose just as badly. we use the freeway fir about 4 miles to lunch,. :-) I like Audi's just too slow, my A6 is the slowest vehicle Ive owned for yet. (the q7 is for my wife so I dont count it) I'm trying to stay with audi im just not seeing how i can and continue to be interested in driving. I prefer sedans now with the birth of my son(and my considerable size) and the fact that I generally have other people in my car. I love Audi it just happens that they are slowly veering away from my needs. When the W12 was introduced it was a big gun, witht he german horsepower wars going on, its become a knife in a gun fight.

 

If we use the 0-60 times for comparison, your top 6 sedans include:

'09 Cadillac CTS-V (4.0 secs)
'08 Mercedes CL65 AMG (4.0 secs)
'07 Mercedes S65 AMG (4.1 secs)
'08 Audi RS6 (4.2 secs)
'07 Mercedes E63 AMG (4.2 secs)
'07 BMW M5 (4.4 secs)

Granted, there are other variables to consider...weight of car, overall weight with driver and passengers, driver's ability, traffic, etc, etc that should be considered, but because I don't have time to type up a full review consisting of several pages we'll limit ourselves to 0-60 times for sedans.

I don't really have the brain power to do that right now either. This is the part of the night that all the blood has left my brain and gone to my stomach to digest my dinner!

adlkfhea - oops, my head hit the keyboard!

 

You guys are having too much fun with this. Just for arguements sake, look at the link you just posted. It's messed up. It lists the new RS5 as a turbo V8, it's an N/A V10. It lists the RS4 as a turbo V8, it's N/A, amongst numerous other errors in there. How credible can these people be if they don't even know what they are driving?'

I agree about the AMG vs. S/RS comparison. Audi has yet to take the leap into supercar territory. The R8 is the first of many to come I think. They are investing 12.5 billion in their product over the next 5 years. I think you will find a lot of fun new cars coming. Now if you want to be the big guy on the block, go buy a mercedes SLR. Unfortunately for you, I'll still beat the crap out of you on my rice rocket all day. Power wars are fun, and certainly expensive. But eventually you will find that what you are getting for the money becomes more important than the "I have 20 more ponies than you" statement. If horsepower is your crutch, get a Veyron.

 

The S65 is a much bigger (and much more exclusive AND much more comfortable) sedan than the CTS-V ever will be. It achieves 738 foot pounds of torque at 2,000 RPM. That's more torque than any Ford, Dodge or Chevy diesel on the market.

While the CTS-V looks very promising, the S65 is in a complete league of its own and dare I say it, but with the Biturbo V12 in the S65/CL65 you're just minor tweaks away from getting even more ridiculous power numbers. (as if 604 horsepower wasn't ridiculous enough)

I'm not arguing or anything, since after all your post was about pure 0-60, not exclusivity. Just saying that in the ultra-high end segment, AMG has reigned for quite some time and will continue to do so.

Heh heh. There are 900-1000 horsepower Supras and Ford GTs out there that would love to challenge your claim. Unless you're riding a Hayabusa, many of the ultra tuned Supra/Terminator Cobra/Z06 guys simply *love* picking off unsuspecting 600cc riders.

 

Ya, someone I know has both an SL65 and an S65 that are heavily modified, ridiculous. We'll see what I do, closing on a new house this week or next so if I decide on something new I've got a month or two till I do it. Although I may just be calling in on an RS6 and see what they know. :-) TY for all your info. Also, rice rockets.... LOL. Ya they're fast, and you can pull slutty chicks on em, but, I'd rather just be comfortable. Owned a 999 for a lil while, it was fun. Ive grown outta that though.

 

Well lucky for me I'm running a highly modded 1000cc race bike then. I have never had a challenge (within a few car lengths even) by anything with more than two wheels up to 200mph. I cut it out there because lets face it, theres no point. I decided a while ago that super high power numbers in cars was a rediculous waste of money. Here's my story:

So I wanted a Termi Cobra, blue, and wanted to bolt on a kenne belle. I was no-where near affording that as I was still in college, so I did some reasearch. It led me to a 1994 Lincoln Mark VIII. Odd I know, but it was loaded with the same 32 valve 4.6L V8 that came in the cobra's. The differences were plenty,... heavier car, luxury ride, no manual transmission option, and most importantly NO forged bottom end. This is to go along with the multitude of other things (fueling system, intake and exhaust tracks, etc.). However, I picked it up for $4000. It quickly became my engineering project, and the car slowly came to life. By the end it had: Full Forged and balanced motor, Kenne Belle Blower (21 PSI), Fully Built Track Prepped Transmission with 3200 RPM stall convertor, 150hp wet nitrous kit, cobra rear end with 4.10 gears,long tube headers, full stainless custom cat back with magnaflow straight through muffs, and a world class sound system with front staging by focal Audio and bass provided by JL. Full Nav, rear camera, you name it built in.
The car was running 550hp on 93 octane pump fuel, and low low 12's in the quarter. With 4400 lbs. of car and a full working air ride suspension (with 20" chrome wheels no less). with spray and some slicks, I think 10's may have been feasible. THAT was a fast car, on a budget. I spent right around $20,000 to do everything across the 4 years I was in school, and I kicked the crap out of most cobra's, vette's, etc. that I came across.
Now for the bad part,... 3 days prior to my heading home with all my belongings packed in the car (driving it from Florida to Mass) after moving out of my apartment. There was a rainy evening. I was heading to get food when a girl in a jeep cherokee cut across 3 lanes of traffic, and smashed up my front end. I T-boned her as she crossed my path, and I watched the front end of my car practical get removed. EVERYTHING I owned at school was in that car with me. The car was totalled by the insurance company, and I had to spend 2 weeks on friends couches with nothing but an overnight bag. To make matters worse, the car hadn't yet been inspected following all the work for insurance adjustments. I was given $4000 for the car, and was told I could remove anything I wanted as long as the car would roll, and the engine could start. I had to fly home, and paid $400 in extra bags to bring my belonging (alot was still left behind). I made it out with maybe $8000 total between the sale of the parts and the car. Not a great return on the investment.
Now I buy $10,000 motorcycles that go INSANELY fast out of the box, and put a few mods on them to make them rediculous. I drive my Audi year round in poor weather, and I have just begun modding that slowly. I plan to keep the A6 I have for 10 years, and I am putting money into it MUCH slower, and making sure I am covered the whole way. I've lost my passion for the extreme speed and horsepower now, atleast until I can afford the car it truly belongs in.

 

That sucks man. Ya, there are a few kids on rice rockets around here who think they are the shiznit but they can only ride a few months a year here, we'll have snow off and on with heavy ice from november till may, some years till july. That and with some of the super blind canyons they love riding, although those canyons are also heavy trucking routes, its not uncommon to have a canyon closed while they clean a kid off the front of a semi. Its the reason my wife won't let me ride anymore, that and my newborn son. :-)

 

After reviewing some of these posts I have a few things to say.

Wow! The tangents and strange comparisons of "apples vs. oranges!" I try my best to stay on topic and make sure I produce the best information I have, so that we are all a little bit smarter, or more educated, than we were before we started.

reaper - You're quite proud of your bicycle, otherwise it would not have even been brought up.Sadly, it has nothing to do with the original topic.

For the sake of "argument" we should all keep in mind that, even before the computer and the internet were around, manhas beenimperfect. I bring this up becausethe link in my previous post led to a webpage with inaccurate information. I apologize for not scrubbing through the database prior to using it for a reference. Can you apologize for not reviewing yourpost for accuracy?

Supercar shmupercar! When is Audi going to leap into the supercar territory? Oh, they did on July 24th, 1998? Hmm, but what supercar company? This link is credible! http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/138623.stm

Batteries - Since we aren't arguing, I'm sureyou can appreciate, based on perfomance, that the extra money for purchasing a CTS-V could be put toward some heavy modding. This could include, and is not limited to,a fully blue-printed rebuild involving aforced induction setup.If you're lucky, when it is all said and done you'll have enough left over to buy a spaceship!

kouper - Ultimately, this is your decision. It seems that you really want to RS6, but are just being a little impatient about it. I say get this house thing taken care of and pick up an RS6 as soon as you can!

As for the 4.2L that this thread was originally started for, I think it is a strong, reliable motor that will last for a long time. It has a lot of potential, too bad the market just isn't there.

Good luck to you all in everything that you do!