Well you never know how well you fared when you buy a new car. you want to leave satisfied but you always know the stealership cant lose money otherwise they would go out of business :-) ....anywho got 3k off of MSRP then due to audi loyalty got another 2k off on a preorder getting the vehicle they way mama wants it. I tried to jump start the economy lets see if it is on a upturn!