First, I never said I was a Brit, nor did I suggest that I have gobs of money at my disposal. I'm sorry that it bothers you to see a well spoken individual asking questions regarding what is possible with a car.

The pompous *** is none other that yourself in this case.

I came in, asking basic questions, looking for basic answers.

But I suppose I could digress into lower form for your satisfaction. Here goes:

So its like this, i'm looking at geting an audi, since i seen one in detroit for 1200 bucks. i see all these newer rides with a 4.2 and wonder if that thing will fit in a 90's whip. any1 no?


Notice the difference? Same question as my initial post, but a different approach. No, I don't have gobs of money to buy "the fastest Audi". Instead I actually happened to be browsing Craigslist, and saw a fellow that is selling his 97 wagon, due to it needing a couple parts that I'm guessing he doesn't wish to shell out for. And so I started looking into the model, and hey, I rather like it. More so than the 87 BMW 3-series I was looking at getting (because they too can be had for under 2 grand if one shops wisely).

Not everyone that is interested in higher end cars is a silver spoon, white collar bloke. Some of us come from a somewhat lesser background. And just because we don't make gobs of money doesn't mean we cannot be interested in nice cars. It also doesn't mean we can't be well spoken. Not all lower class Nascar fans like yourself spend their time at the bars getting drunk and listening to country.

As for "kids like me", I grew up learning the trades of mechanics and computers, and am quite capable of turning a wrench and more. Chances are, seeing as you are in PA, where I just came back from, there is even a chance I wrenched on yours.

Read a little more into inquisitive posts before spouting off.

 

If you're looking for an engine to play and tool with you're better off using a 1.8T, 2.7T, or even the 5-cylinder turbo (don't know much about that other than it is a hoss if modded properly in combination with the right car/frame). The 4.2L is a great motor, but very little in regards to modifications and sport tuning.

If you have your heart set on a V-8 then talk to your audi-specific indy mechanic and see if the 4.2 mounts up to that particular car. You could also try www.vastperformance.com and see if they have any advice for you.

Unfortunately I can't be any more help than that without spending a lot of time researching the schematics of the 4.2 block/mounting points or the frame you intend on putting it in. If you want it that bad then that is your starting point.

Good luck!

 

Also, '92-'94 they made the Audi V8 which had the 4.2L in it. Perhaps the mounting positions are the same? If so, go with that car (if it was available in NA) and put whatever 4.2L matches (perhaps an S8 motor; 360hp) .

Again, GL with your endeavor.

 

Now that was some helpful bits. Many thanks!

 

Style,

That's more like it. Speak like you come you come from someplace at least NEAR us, and we will talk back at you.

"So its like this, i'm looking at geting an audi, since i seen one in detroit for 1200 bucks. i see all these newer rides with a 4.2 and wonder if that thing will fit in a 90's whip. any1 no?"

You don't gotta be all THAT common, but, still, more understandable.

My own 5000 Turbo was a runner. BUT, it was a 2.3 5 cylinder, and that is not what you want.

My present 2.8 NA is strong, but I would probably not take it to the track.

If the 4.2 V-8 is available in the same body, and I don't know that, since I don't care, I assume that the chassis is the same for all the engines in that body model. A6, A8, whatever. Mounts would definitely be different in some cases. Maybe ALL engines are physically so different in dimension that they require specific mounts.

Bolting everything up to a different engine, might not be all that difficult. Computers to control that engine/transmission/body might be totally incompatible. A reprogram, at the very least.

IF the tranny from the model you want to buy WILL bolt up to the engine you want to drop in, can that tranny handle the torque of the replacement motor? Even the trannys in these things are monitored by that damned computer.

Have a go at it. If you can afford it, and I always could come up with a few bucks to make my car run better, 40 years ago, to go to the dragstrip, it is fun. When I broke something, though, with a Ford product, I could always go to the boneyard and get a part for next to nothing.
Parts for these things are not at all cheap. Hell, look at the price of the fluids alone.

Have fun with your project.

Cheers,

George

Oh!
I've been a mill hunkey all my life. Worked for wages. 40 years of it. Bought used cars. ALL but ONE time, and that experience taught me to not buy another.

That said, as a mill hunkey, I've been driving Audis for near 30 years. I have paid more to maintain my kid's cars, Fords, Chevys, than I have to keep my Audis on the road. I did all y own repairs, on all them cars.

Case in point. Front wheel bearing goes out on a Chevy, Ford You buy a complete spindle. Audi, you buy a bearing and replace just that. IF you can do it yourself, you are ahead of the game. If you can't, it may be a wash

Idjits can go to the nearest garage and jump at the first estimate they get. Or they can go to the Dealer and get raped. Or, they can go look for an indy shop who will do it for less.

If you CAN turn your own wrenches, there is no limit to what you can do.

 

We are seeing more eye to eye. Awesome

I am totally aware that at the least, the computer would require reprogramming, and in a higher end car like an Audi, I rather expect it.

I've just been asking the questions as I'm unaware of the differences of the Audi engines, such as engine families. Case in point, Ford has the Windsor motors (302, 351) and the FE motors (390, 460), Audi has the 2.8, 4.2, are they the same family, or totally different?

Truth be told, I halfway expect that Audi designed each car with one motor in mind, be it the 2.8 (100, A6), or the 4.2 (later A6 and however many other models). I just like to know what options I have open should I want to turn it into a serious track *****.

I have a bit of a history of taking cars and stuffing as much as possible into them (on paper anyway, even if I cannot appropriate the funds to fully execute it), and I expect it will be no different in the future. And so in the spirit of that, I continue to look into what I can do with pretty much anything that strikes my fancy.


BTW, I hear you on the used vs new situation. My mother has bought several new cars over the years, and I swear every other new vehicle she has bought or leased has had problems from day one. Nothing like buying a new van and having suspension problems or a new crossover and having to have the dealer reassemble the interior trim..... As enthusiasts we expect our used cars we buy to have these problems, but brand new from the dealer? I think not.