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Buying a Preowned 2005 Audi A8L Quattro. PLEASE HELP

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Old 07-07-2014, 11:25 PM
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Default Buying a Preowned 2005 Audi A8L Quattro. PLEASE HELP

I found a great deal which I'm interested in. It's for an 2005 Northern Pearl Blue Audi A8L.

So the car looks great inside and out. I was really happy with it but my major concern was the maintenance. I know Audi's generally around 80k miles need a timing belt and water pump replacement. This has 85k miles. I looked at the carfax reports and it's been done last year the replacement and maintenance. It was actually in the shop last month for an oil and filter change. All and all the car reports look great.

It's a wholeseller who is selling me the car. I really want to buy this car but I'm worried about issues that may arise or added maintenance costs. Is there any other things I should look to replace or look into in the 90k/100k and etc mark. Like I said Timing Belt and Water pump have been replaced. I'm buying the car for around 10k.

Will the car run solid for another 20-40k miles? Should I be worried or pass up this offer?

Below is the carfax report

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CARFAX Detailed History
Owner 1
Purchased: 2005
Commercial vehicle 
13,368 mi./yr
Mileage:	Source:	Comments:
4/15/05
NICB	Vehicle manufactured
and shipped to original dealer
4/15/05
Illinois
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Alsip, IL	Titled or registered as commercial vehicle
5/20/05
3,090 mi.
Illinois
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Alsip, IL
Title #X5140663245	Title issued or updated
First owner reported
Loan or lien reported
3/31/06
Audi of Tinley Park 
Tinley Park, IL
708-342-0300
15,000 mile service performed
Information display unit replaced
Engine/powertrain computer/module checked
Antenna lead replaced
12/14/06
Audi of Tinley Park 
Tinley Park, IL
708-342-0300
Maintenance inspection completed
25,000 mile service performed
1/26/07
Audi of Tinley Park 
Tinley Park, IL
708-342-0300
Vehicle serviced
11/19/07
36,535 mi.
Audi of Tinley Park 
Tinley Park, IL
708-342-0300
Maintenance inspection completed
35,000 mile service performed
Front brake rotor(s) replaced
Wheels checked
Radiator replaced
3/21/08
39,195 mi.
Audi Westmont 
Westmont, IL
630-655-6700
Pre-delivery inspection completed
Washed/detailed
Ash tray replaced
Anti-theft/keyless remote battery replaced
Oil and filter changed
3/21/08
39,226 mi.
Audi Westmont 
Westmont, IL
630-655-6700
Vehicle sold
3/31/08
Audi Certified Dealer
Westmont, IL	Sold as an Audi Certified pre-owned vehicle 

Low mileage! This owner drove less than the industry average of 15,000 miles per year.

Owner 2
Purchased: 2008
Personal vehicle 
6,509 mi./yr
Mileage:	Source:	Comments:
4/23/08
Illinois
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Franklin Park, IL
Title #X8114690519	Title issued or updated
New owner reported
8/6/08
42,298 mi.
Audi Westmont 
Westmont, IL
630-655-6700
Maintenance inspection completed
1/7/09
45,116 mi.
Audi Westmont 
Westmont, IL
630-655-6700
Maintenance inspection completed
45,000 mile service performed
Interior trim repaired
Sunvisor(s) replaced/repaired
Door hinge replaced
Rear brake pads replaced
Front suspension serviced
Wheels checked
7/18/09
47,000 mi.
Illinois
Inspection Station
Elk Grove Village, IL	Passed emissions inspection
7/21/09
Illinois
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Franklin Park, IL	Registration issued or renewed
3/11/10
Illinois
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Franklin Park, IL	Registration issued or renewed
8/9/10
54,800 mi.
Audi Westmont 
Westmont, IL
630-655-6700
Maintenance inspection completed
55,000 mile service performed
Four wheel alignment performed
Brake fluid flushed/changed
Tires rotated
Wheels checked
Front suspension serviced
Tire condition and pressure checked
Brakes checked
Battery/charging system checked
4/9/11
58,000 mi.
Illinois
Inspection Station
Elk Grove Village, IL	Passed emissions inspection
4/13/11
Illinois
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Franklin Park, IL	Registration issued or renewed
7/14/11
59,556 mi.
Audi Westmont 
Westmont, IL
630-655-6700
Recommended maintenance performed
Maintenance inspection completed
Body electrical system checked
Tire condition and pressure checked
Brakes checked
Serpentine belt replaced
11/11/11
61,334 mi.
Mercedes-Benz of Westmont 
Westmont, IL
630-654-8100
Washed/detailed
11/12/11
Audi Westmont 
Westmont, IL
630-655-6700
Maintenance inspection completed
Door locks checked
Door hinge replaced
Tire(s) replaced
Tire condition and pressure checked
Brakes checked
Wheels checked
2/21/12
62,849 mi.
Audi Westmont 
Westmont, IL
630-655-6700
Maintenance inspection completed
Brakes checked
Tire condition and pressure checked
3/30/12
Illinois
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Franklin Park, IL	Registration issued or renewed
4/17/13
71,699 mi.
Woodfield Lexus 
Schaumburg, IL
847-882-0200
Four wheel alignment performed
Four tires mounted and balanced
4/20/13
Illinois
Inspection Station
Elk Grove Village, IL	Passed emissions inspection
4/23/13
Illinois
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Franklin Park, IL	Registration issued or renewed
8/14/13
74,415 mi.
Audi Westmont 
Westmont, IL
630-655-6700
Maintenance inspection completed
75,000 mile service performed
Headlights adjusted
Brakes checked
Engine/powertrain computer/module checked
Axles checked
Cooling system checked
Exhaust system checked
Exterior lights checked
Power steering fluid flushed/changed
Tire condition and pressure checked
Steering/suspension checked
Wipers/washers checked
Sunroof drain hoses serviced
Decarbon service completed
Battery serviced
Body lubricated
Sunroof checked
Wipers/washers serviced
Front brake pads and rotors replaced
Cabin air filter replaced/cleaned
Drive belt(s) replaced
Oil and filter changed
Timing belt replaced
Maintenance reminder reset
3/11/14
Illinois
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Franklin Park, IL	Registration issued or renewed


6/9/14
Schaumburg Audi
Schaumburg, IL
847-882-1800
Oil and filter changed
Exhaust system checked
 
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Old 07-07-2014, 11:47 PM
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Well you didn't say how much they are asking, which is critical.

Air suspension is a big concern on these vehicles.

A good start for an inspection list here: audipages Used A8 Buyer's Guide

I don't see a VIN in your report so I can't check campaigns, but considering the lengthy list I doubt there are any outstanding.
Skimmed the list - lots to read in there and I'm exhausted but will look closer tomorrow.

Any VCDS scan to look through ?
It's very revealing.
 
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Old 07-07-2014, 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jakematic
Well you didn't say how much they are asking, which is critical.

Air suspension is a big concern on these vehicles.

A good start for an inspection list here: audipages Used A8 Buyer's Guide

I don't see a VIN in your report so I can't check campaigns, but considering the lengthy list I doubt there are any outstanding.
Skimmed the list - lots to read in there and I'm exhausted but will look closer tomorrow.

Any VCDS scan to look through ?
It's very revealing.
They are asking 10k

VIN: WAUML44E25N003852


How much maintenance cost should I expect for the next couple of years. Looking to keep this for a year or 2.

I really appreciate any help. I'm totally lost on the matter, love the car though.
 
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Old 07-08-2014, 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by theicon14
They are asking 10k

VIN: WAUML44E25N003852


How much maintenance cost should I expect for the next couple of years. Looking to keep this for a year or 2.

I really appreciate any help. I'm totally lost on the matter, love the car though.
10K with that mileage is good.

I just picked up one for 11, with 130k. totally clean and babied though with all the options that were available, sub-w12.

things I look for are:
-CV Boots
-control arm bushings, lower and upper
-I would ask if they did the thermostat at the same time they did the water pump and timing belt. it is right next to it, behind the cap, which is under the timing belt.
-make sure the mmi is working well. you could also check to see if it has been updated to 4610
-do the switches work with all the windows
-seat functions?
-automatic trunk? is the motor working?
-the shocks on the trunk and the hood
-check the transmission and be sure that all 7 gears are good, 6 forward, 1 back and shift smoothly.
-air bags are expensive to fix. if they have not been done, they will be coming. MAKE FRIENDS WITH FRIENDS OF AUDI STEALERSHIPS
.....



in the end, if you are paying 10k...and the maintenance at an average car payment is about 800+ for this luxury vehicle (being conservative), then so long as your maintenance on the vehicle is less than 10k outside of oil/tires/brakes/gas/car washes, then you are really ahead....and I think that 10k here is really actually high. I would expect less than 4k
 
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Old 07-08-2014, 06:47 AM
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It appears as though the maintenance was kept up on this vehicle, which is a good thing. For the price, I would pull the trigger.

For your own piece of mind, my 2006 S4 which as a modified version of the exact same 4.2 engine (they swapped the timing belt for a chain and put it in the rear of the engine to make it fit) just reached 181K miles.
 
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Old 07-09-2014, 09:56 PM
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I found a mechanic on craigslist that said he would charge 40 dollars to look at it. The Audi dealer says he would charge 160 which I don't mind paying but he doesn't have anything open till Monday. I'm going to call another couple of them and see if they have openings.

So from this thread and another I posted on a different site it seems like the Front suspension and bushings are the biggest cause of concern. How likely is it honestly that the front suspension fails? Should I just take a gamble and pull the trigger based on the price and carfax reports.

Here are some pictures of the car btw.





 
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Old 07-10-2014, 11:42 PM
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pay the 160 im new to this forum and not sure f you have done the purchae already but i paid my local dealer to inspect it and they gave me a honest audi opinion ..
 
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