Coming soon
Here is my list of reasons
for choosing 10:1 currently
my car is not very street
friendly a 30r plus 3652
catcams for city driving
sucks also i have seen
first hand higher
compression decrease
spool time on a stock
stroke and bore 1.8t also i
understand that i will be
losing max boost but i
choose not to push my
turbo over 30psi which is
not even close to my max
on 93oct and water meth
so rather then maxing out
my setup by pushing the
turbo out of its ideal psi
range i will raise the
compression not only
increaseing my hp by
taking full advantage of
my available fueling but
also making my power
curve more street friendly
for choosing 10:1 currently
my car is not very street
friendly a 30r plus 3652
catcams for city driving
sucks also i have seen
first hand higher
compression decrease
spool time on a stock
stroke and bore 1.8t also i
understand that i will be
losing max boost but i
choose not to push my
turbo over 30psi which is
not even close to my max
on 93oct and water meth
so rather then maxing out
my setup by pushing the
turbo out of its ideal psi
range i will raise the
compression not only
increaseing my hp by
taking full advantage of
my available fueling but
also making my power
curve more street friendly
Just wanted to add in some more facts
- More power off psi
- More power with less psi and/or timing (have to reduce one of them if octane dependent aka pump)
-- ^ lower temps out of the turbo and great efficiecy from the turbo
- More tq and sooner
- Better throttle response
- longer powerband
- Burns at a lower temp since its more efficent
- ^ above also results in better gas mileage
- - ^ i can atest to that. 33mpg on the move to FL with GF and another 250+lbs in the hatch and with another 228cc motor
- spools the turbo faster
- Only downside is less room for error on a tune and octane dependent. With more octane or w/m, more psi and timing can easily be added, same as a lower compression motor but with a broader powerband.
Not sure why anyone would want to run less than 9.5:1 on a street motor with a turbo that actually has lag. Of course, this is my opinion
- More power off psi
- More power with less psi and/or timing (have to reduce one of them if octane dependent aka pump)
-- ^ lower temps out of the turbo and great efficiecy from the turbo
- More tq and sooner
- Better throttle response
- longer powerband
Originally Posted by CandPerformanc
On the dyno the different compressions made very little changes in power what it did change was where it made power and how broad of a power curve, low compresion made a narrow high rpm curve while the high compresion made a longer power curve and much closer to the peak torque curve.
- ^ above also results in better gas mileage
- - ^ i can atest to that. 33mpg on the move to FL with GF and another 250+lbs in the hatch and with another 228cc motor
- spools the turbo faster
Originally Posted by CandPerformc
Higher compresion creates higher combustion preasures and temps in exchange creates higher velocity of exhaust gas traveling through the port wich would spool the turbo faster. We had the very same B16 honda turbo setup with a .63 ar exhaust housing with stock compresion at 10:1 and it spooled 300 rpm sooner in the logs then the same motor does now with 8.8:1 pistons.
Not sure why anyone would want to run less than 9.5:1 on a street motor with a turbo that actually has lag. Of course, this is my opinion
Last edited by cincyTT; Dec 17, 2008 at 11:51 AM.
Im sorry, i meant overall power (boost and high end). I just explained that and that it gives a longer powerband. If you think you will throw a rod with a bad tune and high compression, LOL, thats not what will happen. Not to mention that the ecu will pull timing long before anything bad does happen. Plus its always nice that 2 unitronic people are also running 10:1. One is stock disp, the other 2.0
So your concerns are FAR from what actually happens and inflated.
So your concerns are FAR from what actually happens and inflated.
Im sorry, i meant overall power (boost and high end). I just explained that and that it gives a longer powerband. If you think you will throw a rod with a bad tune and high compression, LOL, thats not what will happen. Not to mention that the ecu will pull timing long before anything bad does happen. Plus its always nice that 2 unitronic people are also running 10:1. One is stock disp, the other 2.0
So your concerns are FAR from what actually happens and inflated.
So your concerns are FAR from what actually happens and inflated.
I have 2 friends out here that have built hondas neither of them have low compression pistons and both of them are over 400whp. Im not big on hondas but it shows something if they are making that kind of power out of a small displacement motor, with an extremely high rev limiter, and high compression. and both are running gt35r's. You have less room for error but with good tuning it is a more effective setup.
Last edited by myslow1; Dec 17, 2008 at 09:11 PM.
Only way anyone is going to harm the engine is if they go standalone and dont tune it well. The stock ecu and knock sensors will more than compensate for any knock if the tune is to aggressive for the psi/compression. This can then be altered by the tuner or with lemmi if needed.
pretty sure last time i talked to Adam, he will be using an off the shelf 1200cc program for this car. Last time i talked to him, he was still waiting for the tune from MikeZ since he ran to SEMA or some other event
Their tunes can adjust timing for fuels and it should be able to handle the timing changes needed (if any) for the extra .5 increase.
Their tunes can adjust timing for fuels and it should be able to handle the timing changes needed (if any) for the extra .5 increase.
With restrictions of keeping the same turbo? Obviously a bigger turbo is going to make you more power.
Other than that, a good FMIC will help a bit, and the water/meth injection isn't a bad deal either.
Other than that, a good FMIC will help a bit, and the water/meth injection isn't a bad deal either.


