So, a hundred bucks for the kit then install on a 180T, good? bad? concept seems simple and easy enough but will the car agree? What do you guys think?

 

I wouldnt do it since i cant think of any place that i can fill up at. Dont know whats all involved in that type of conversion, you would be the first

 

From what I understand, the stuff that's I'm looking at in the market makes it more of a Hybrid: You buy and wire the electrolysis machine, fill it with water and it produces H2 or HHO gas. Run a hose from machine to the MAF feeding the engine with the more volatile gas so in theory, the engine will lower the gas consumption and increase the mileage. I'm just curious about the ECU being able to adjust the air/fuel ratio.

So, no, the engine is not going to be fed with pure Hydrogen. It's not fueled by water -just the source of the hydrogen with the electrolysis device.

http://water4gas.com/2books.htm?hop=fonz77
for reference.

 

OK, currently I'm working with my friend who is an engineer. We have fabricated a smaller version. He is planning on running it in his honda accord but I wasn't considering it for myself.

 

i dunno, seems like more trouble than its worth for a car. More weight, even less room in an already cramped engine bay, another system to maintain. How much draw does this thing take? Energy cannot be created or destroyed, so how much strain is this system putting on the car trying to power the unit thats supposed to power your car?

Kinda like the lady next door asking why people don't mount windmills on the top of the car to make power.

And before someone gets into it.. YES I know you can potentially make power with this, but if it were as easy as installing a little kit to get reasonable gains, why aren't car manufacturers doing it, instead of astronomically expensive 'hybrid' units?

I'm considering building a small electrolysis system for the novelty of an 'electric candle'. I think it'd be neat to have a container of water slowly making bubbles that are collected and burned like a candle. Thats as far as I'll take it though.

A tangent:

If gas milage is really THAT big of a concern, or you REALLY need to tinker with an engine. Consider something diesel. First off, despite the US market being flooded with hybrids, I believe the future of cars is in diesel. Great milage, good power (with newer models), and you wanna talk about modding... 1000+ ft/lbs of torque are not uncommon for a modded turbo diesel pickup truck. I know 2 people with trucks like that.

And for injecting things, you can always run bio-diesel, or WVO (waste veggy oil), and dont stop there... some pretty simplistic propane injection can show gains of 50-100 HP, torque numbers climb equally as well.

 

Go to water4gas.com to read up on it. My father in laws doing a setup on his car right now. If it works I might do that to the TT.Nothing like turning water into gas. Basically your sending alot of amperage through tubes that are imersed in water and the byproduct is hydrogen. If it works I'll let you know.

 

I like gas... 100 oct please, thank you.

 

that looks so fake its not even funny LOL

 

it's the 'alot of amperage' part I'd be concerned with in a car. The alternator can only support so much, and putting more electrical load on the alternator is going to backfeed thru to putting more mechanical load on the motor. More load on motor = lower MPGs.

Can that little set up actually overcome all that load enough to provide improved milage?

 

Fail!