How do you think my TT would fair?
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HAHA! I know what ya mean bro! It has gotta be loud. My clamp that mates the test pipe to my catback was loose once and slipped off. Man was it LOUD! I was leaving work in down town Seattle....everyone stopped and looked as I drove it until i could find a place to pull over.
I'm make believe
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 17,587
From: In my head
clipse - he always tells me i rain on his parade.... get it?
Anyways, a TT can be fast, it just needs a good turbo to do it and maybe shaving off a good 200lbs of fat that you dont need (actually really simple). A now 3100lb AWD TT with something in the gt30 range will EASILY do 11's with street tires. Plus all you really will need to do to make good number is drop in some rods and add in a big port manifold. People are now making 400fwhp on pump with 23-24psi and a 3071r .63 with a AEB head and intake manifold. That would be ~360awhp, more than enough for a respectable 1/4mi time and not need a full fire suit and cage.
people talking about fast hondas all need to take into account they are all running in the 24-2600lb range. Doesnt take much power to get them rolling. This is the reasone why i may keep my GF's 01 sedan and drop in a k20a2 in it with a manual when her engine or 2nd tranny dies (~280k miles). Make a good daily.
People need to realize that there is so much new stuff that has come out in the last handful of months and this scene is getting better. Not to mention most of the people already making good power with a VW are moving to TT's and A4's to get awd and be able to put that power to the ground. I may end up doing the same thing if anything would happen to mine. Just pull all the parts i could (wilwoods, engine, turbo set, etc) and transplant it into a 180q or 225.
Anyways, a TT can be fast, it just needs a good turbo to do it and maybe shaving off a good 200lbs of fat that you dont need (actually really simple). A now 3100lb AWD TT with something in the gt30 range will EASILY do 11's with street tires. Plus all you really will need to do to make good number is drop in some rods and add in a big port manifold. People are now making 400fwhp on pump with 23-24psi and a 3071r .63 with a AEB head and intake manifold. That would be ~360awhp, more than enough for a respectable 1/4mi time and not need a full fire suit and cage.
people talking about fast hondas all need to take into account they are all running in the 24-2600lb range. Doesnt take much power to get them rolling. This is the reasone why i may keep my GF's 01 sedan and drop in a k20a2 in it with a manual when her engine or 2nd tranny dies (~280k miles). Make a good daily.
People need to realize that there is so much new stuff that has come out in the last handful of months and this scene is getting better. Not to mention most of the people already making good power with a VW are moving to TT's and A4's to get awd and be able to put that power to the ground. I may end up doing the same thing if anything would happen to mine. Just pull all the parts i could (wilwoods, engine, turbo set, etc) and transplant it into a 180q or 225.
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The 2004 Civic Type R has the same specs for performance (0-60, 1/4) as the 08 but has 5 more ft/lb torque. So I guess you could "hang" with my Si too, LOL. (see review of the 04 type R from Top Gear).
Yes we can agree to disagree but it is still fun talkng about it!
It is nothing more than a friendly discussion from my view.
To me, my opinion only, you may have the jump off the line for the stock 225 due to your increase in torque from your chip but in the 1/4 mile with your mods you would lose. I do not see how you could gain that much time with a chip and catback. the 180FWD stock is 16.1, 225 is 14.6. I think the 0-60 trial is gonna be a drivers race as well. Your chip and catback would need to improve it's time by 1 second. I took off a few ticks from the FWD 180 for the AWD advantage off the line, again I can't find times for that model.
I have all the bolt on mods and I would be hard pressed to see my car hit ~5 0-60 (using the logic implied here) but then again I am not a professional skilled driver. I think with the right driver it could hit maybe a 5 or low 5. I haven't seen any times trials with a bolt on modded TT 225. who knows it could be better or I could be way off.
You are right man! We may not have the fastest cars but they sure look sexy and are always a head turner.
Yes we can agree to disagree but it is still fun talkng about it!
It is nothing more than a friendly discussion from my view. To me, my opinion only, you may have the jump off the line for the stock 225 due to your increase in torque from your chip but in the 1/4 mile with your mods you would lose. I do not see how you could gain that much time with a chip and catback. the 180FWD stock is 16.1, 225 is 14.6. I think the 0-60 trial is gonna be a drivers race as well. Your chip and catback would need to improve it's time by 1 second. I took off a few ticks from the FWD 180 for the AWD advantage off the line, again I can't find times for that model.
I have all the bolt on mods and I would be hard pressed to see my car hit ~5 0-60 (using the logic implied here) but then again I am not a professional skilled driver. I think with the right driver it could hit maybe a 5 or low 5. I haven't seen any times trials with a bolt on modded TT 225. who knows it could be better or I could be way off.
You are right man! We may not have the fastest cars but they sure look sexy and are always a head turner.
well in concerns for me when i did the chip it made a big difference and also i have a straight pipe no cat no resonator only catback that also really helped with performance not with mpg mileage though
anyways props to you're car man i know i love the low end torque in mine.
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clipse - he always tells me i rain on his parade.... get it?
Anyways, a TT can be fast, it just needs a good turbo to do it and maybe shaving off a good 200lbs of fat that you dont need (actually really simple). A now 3100lb AWD TT with something in the gt30 range will EASILY do 11's with street tires. Plus all you really will need to do to make good number is drop in some rods and add in a big port manifold. People are now making 400fwhp on pump with 23-24psi and a 3071r .63 with a AEB head and intake manifold. That would be ~360awhp, more than enough for a respectable 1/4mi time and not need a full fire suit and cage.
people talking about fast hondas all need to take into account they are all running in the 24-2600lb range. Doesnt take much power to get them rolling. This is the reasone why i may keep my GF's 01 sedan and drop in a k20a2 in it with a manual when her engine or 2nd tranny dies (~280k miles). Make a good daily.
People need to realize that there is so much new stuff that has come out in the last handful of months and this scene is getting better. Not to mention most of the people already making good power with a VW are moving to TT's and A4's to get awd and be able to put that power to the ground. I may end up doing the same thing if anything would happen to mine. Just pull all the parts i could (wilwoods, engine, turbo set, etc) and transplant it into a 180q or 225.
Anyways, a TT can be fast, it just needs a good turbo to do it and maybe shaving off a good 200lbs of fat that you dont need (actually really simple). A now 3100lb AWD TT with something in the gt30 range will EASILY do 11's with street tires. Plus all you really will need to do to make good number is drop in some rods and add in a big port manifold. People are now making 400fwhp on pump with 23-24psi and a 3071r .63 with a AEB head and intake manifold. That would be ~360awhp, more than enough for a respectable 1/4mi time and not need a full fire suit and cage.
people talking about fast hondas all need to take into account they are all running in the 24-2600lb range. Doesnt take much power to get them rolling. This is the reasone why i may keep my GF's 01 sedan and drop in a k20a2 in it with a manual when her engine or 2nd tranny dies (~280k miles). Make a good daily.
People need to realize that there is so much new stuff that has come out in the last handful of months and this scene is getting better. Not to mention most of the people already making good power with a VW are moving to TT's and A4's to get awd and be able to put that power to the ground. I may end up doing the same thing if anything would happen to mine. Just pull all the parts i could (wilwoods, engine, turbo set, etc) and transplant it into a 180q or 225.
how else can i shave weight?... the counterweight i know about, but anything else to note?
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From: In my head
counterweight - 35lbSmaller battery -20-25lb
Lighter seats - up to 80lbs
urathane side skirts - 10-15lbs
remover sai, n115, n249, intake box, covers, etc -4-5lbs (with plates and bolts)
crossover pipe - 3-4lbs
lightweight 17" wheels - 8-12lb/wheel
2 piece rotors - ~10lbs/side front ~6lbs rear
aluminium calipers - 3-6lbs/side
lightweight turboback - 15-20lbs
lwfw - 8-13lbs
remove rear seatbacks - 15-20lbs
remove spare for fix-a-flat - 30lbs
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min - 290lbs
max - 339lbs
FWD - 2910 to 2620-2571
180q - 3131 to 2841-2892
225 - 3208 to 2918-2869
There is more, but thats a good deal right there
Lighter seats - up to 80lbs
urathane side skirts - 10-15lbs
remover sai, n115, n249, intake box, covers, etc -4-5lbs (with plates and bolts)
crossover pipe - 3-4lbs
lightweight 17" wheels - 8-12lb/wheel
2 piece rotors - ~10lbs/side front ~6lbs rear
aluminium calipers - 3-6lbs/side
lightweight turboback - 15-20lbs
lwfw - 8-13lbs
remove rear seatbacks - 15-20lbs
remove spare for fix-a-flat - 30lbs
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min - 290lbs
max - 339lbs
FWD - 2910 to 2620-2571
180q - 3131 to 2841-2892
225 - 3208 to 2918-2869
There is more, but thats a good deal right there
Last edited by cincyTT; Oct 30, 2008 at 05:34 PM. Reason: forgot the counterweight
