I/C talk, stock and aftermarket
#1
I/C talk, stock and aftermarket
So I have been thinking lately about I/Cs. Is there a way to make the stockers more efficient? Anyone measured temps after or tried removal of the headlamp sprayers? It seems like they restrict the air flow a lot! Also, openeing up the mesh more in the airdam as it is sealed off mostly?
As far as front mounts, I seem to be doing the APR parts since it's local and I like the design, but the APR I/C is much cheaper than the Forge, and designed differently. Which nets the best drops? Anyone running an APR I/C? If so, was it easily tunable?
Thanks,
-Skip
As far as front mounts, I seem to be doing the APR parts since it's local and I like the design, but the APR I/C is much cheaper than the Forge, and designed differently. Which nets the best drops? Anyone running an APR I/C? If so, was it easily tunable?
Thanks,
-Skip
#2
RE: I/C talk, stock and aftermarket
I tooked off the bottom mesh grills on my lip and really haven't noticed anything lol. the stock sidemounts will do their job but heat soak is still present. they really don't get much direct air feed so a front mount would be more ideal for cooler IAT's.
imo, 225's have it easy with FMIC's bc their throttle body is on the driver's side. fabbing up a piping route isn't nearly as hard as 180's. it's rather easy (and cheap!) to build your own custom FMIC with all ebay parts, just get a welder to weld on brackets, MAP flange or you can just weld the core into your bumper support/bar.
imo, 225's have it easy with FMIC's bc their throttle body is on the driver's side. fabbing up a piping route isn't nearly as hard as 180's. it's rather easy (and cheap!) to build your own custom FMIC with all ebay parts, just get a welder to weld on brackets, MAP flange or you can just weld the core into your bumper support/bar.
#3
RE: I/C talk, stock and aftermarket
The stock smic(s) suck. You cant make them any better. You will have to either go fmic or wmi. Bot will bring the temps down greatly.
If you had to choose between the forge and apr, i would go APR since it is a bar and plate and will work well with a turbo upgrade. However the forge kit looks far better
If you had to choose between the forge and apr, i would go APR since it is a bar and plate and will work well with a turbo upgrade. However the forge kit looks far better
#8
RE: I/C talk, stock and aftermarket
Removing the shields in the side grilles might actually hurt things more than help. You need to 'trap' the air and force it thru the IC.
It looks to me like the stock design is meant to capture air thats being pushed around the front of the car. Without the shields, you'll have a buffer of slow air trapped in the duct to the IC, and the rest of the fresh air is going to cascade past.
Most efficient IC ducting design you would think would look like a funnel. A big opening leading to a smaller IC (like you see on all those ricers), to direct it in. This is actually wrong. You actually want a backward funnel, so that once the air is past the entry of the duct, it can't reverse direction and push back out. Kinda like a lobster trap if you think about it.
It looks to me like the stock design is meant to capture air thats being pushed around the front of the car. Without the shields, you'll have a buffer of slow air trapped in the duct to the IC, and the rest of the fresh air is going to cascade past.
Most efficient IC ducting design you would think would look like a funnel. A big opening leading to a smaller IC (like you see on all those ricers), to direct it in. This is actually wrong. You actually want a backward funnel, so that once the air is past the entry of the duct, it can't reverse direction and push back out. Kinda like a lobster trap if you think about it.