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Old Mar 25, 2015 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by redline380
A chip will yield the same result as reprogrammed ecu. Some ecu's need a chip, others need a flash.

If your car is FWD, it is probably closer to 175-180fwhp.

I don't care how much HP your car came stock with, they all have the same after a chip since they all have the same hardware or very close to it.
Fair point. That's why I'd like to get it on a Dyno and get an exact number.

Thanks for that.

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I find it funny how you're trying to lecture me on tunes and chips, I wrote the tune I'm running in my car (with the help of nefmoto of course). I think you're confusing a chip with a piggyback system because the only difference between flash and a chip is the physical flash chip soldered to the PCB.

I'm just saying there's absolutely no way you can make anywhere near 200 whp on a k03 at 17 psi, it's just not physically possible. I get that you're excited about more power, but don't go pulling numbers out of your *** expecting people with more experience to believe you.
I don't know why you're quoting yourself, or patronizing me, but I'm not pulling any numbers out of my ***. I asked the guy who wrote my program what he thought my numbers were and he came up with 200whp, I didn't. Again: I asked "the guy with more experience". I didn't assume anything (like you keep doing). If his numbers are wrong and someone with more experience (who doesn't present themselves as a self absorbed *****) tells me otherwise (like Redline did - thank you sir) then I'm all ears, but when you act "childish" by trying to talk down to me, then I don't care what you have to say, even if you're Audi's top engineer. I just see you as a ***** and I'll meet your arrogance with disdain.

Originally Posted by Mad Cow
There's a reason lots of auto forums (probably here too) have rules against street racing stories, it's a bad look for the community as a whole. The whole concept "if you don't like it then STFU" is ridiculous, some people need to be called out on things they say. I'm free to speak my mind just like you are, and my opinion is street racing stories are childish and remind me of when I was still in high school thinking I'm hot **** and the coolest guy ever. And no, I've never gone 100 mph down a street because I wanted to show some random guy how awesome my car is. From a risk-reward perspective that's an absolutely retarded idea.
First of all: you have no idea what the street in question looks like at that time of night, nor do you know what the pavement looks like. You also don't know that it's a (closed) business district at night and the mile long shot was perfectly straight, with 180* worth of clear vision. I think the risk vs. reward was pretty equal, but then again: I have a high risk tolerance. You must not. Perhaps you should get a stock Volvo (to be safe)., but , you're right: some people do need to be called out and you're one of them. If you think you're building 300hp B5s and blending into society as "just another regular car" then you're either delusional, or moronic. You remind me of the guy who beats his wife (because he knows what's best), then goes to church every Sunday and expects people to believe that her bruises came from a "fall". Stop fooling yourself.

There's always that one guy - on every forum I've been on - that spouts the same "you're making us look bad" rhetoric. When I posted up a pic of my top speed recall on my RR and it said 155 mph, I got the same **** on the bike forum, but guess what? It's called a superbike, not a cruiser and I plan to ride it like one, regardless of what people like you think, The same goes for tuned cars. I drive them in accordance with what they were built for.

"Safe" and "risk" are both subjective words. If you understand the physics of driving and/or riding, then you are a better driver/rider than someone who doesn't. Assess my driving skills, then you can critique me. Until then, keep your assumptions to yourself.

You're also right about having your own opinion and racing stories may remind you of your childhood, but I'm a grown man, with 2 kids, $20K in tools and a mortgage. My "childhood racing days" were with 110 hp Hondas. You must be pretty young if you were tuning B5s as a teenager.

What get's me ""excited" (as you put it) is the fact that a 14 year old stock 4 cylinder, with a stock turbo can produce and handle 17 psi of boost w/o blowing anything up. It's the engineering that "excites" me.

I'm also "excited" by the slotted and cross-drilled rotors w/ceramic pads I installed, to keep the added power in check, since safety is an actual concern of mine.

As for any other street racing stories: yes, you're entitled to your opinion, but your opinion is super ******* lame and hypocritical in my opinion . Why the **** are you worried about what anyone thinks of you? Especially society as a whole? Be yourself and don't try to hide it. That's below childish. It's cowardly (or devious at best).


(Then again: maybe I should tone this down, since all of society will be looking at this thread together tonight).

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Old Mar 26, 2015 | 03:28 PM
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I had a big long rant written out but thought better of it, this thread is lolz.
 
Old Mar 26, 2015 | 03:54 PM
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op, start off by doing research. Everything your saying has been said to death. I bet your car is slower than you think, now that you have those 20's on it. If you want to be fast, upgrade your turbo or buy Keegan's s4. Not going to have fun with a fwd b5.


I'm just posting to post for the first time in like 2 years, don't really care about this topic.

Hey Chris, the ar is almost complete.
 
Old Mar 26, 2015 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by A4TurboGuy
The forum's been dead for a while now, so I figured I'd wake it up.

I bought an ECU (tuned for my car specifically) with the following:

re-mapped timing
re-mapped fuel delivery
top speed limiter delete
Redline bumped up to 7100 RPM
Boost increased to 17 psi

New (forged) Diverter valve

It ended up being a 45+ hp increase, so I'm putting about 200 hp to the wheels (from what I'm told).
Your car came with 170hp stock at the crank not the wheels, so you are looking at 215hp. Problem is that 17psi is not going to give you 215hp, there are tune out there pushing 23psi and they are claiming that type of power. The 170hp A4 1.8t came stock pushing 11psi boost, so a 6psi bump in boost is not going to give you a 45hp gain. You are most likely making around 200hp which would put you at 170whp for your FWD car with a 15% driveline loss.
 
Old Mar 27, 2015 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by CCA4
I had a big long rant written out but thought better of it, this thread is lolz.
I would've loved to have heard it, but you're right. I should've just left it alone in the first place myself. Some things just get under my skin though and I typically don't censor myself (in any given situation), but if I'm wrong about something, I'll be the first to admit it.

Originally Posted by turbo kraut
op, start off by doing research. Everything your saying has been said to death. I bet your car is slower than you think, now that you have those 20's on it. If you want to be fast, upgrade your turbo or buy Keegan's s4. Not going to have fun with a fwd b5.
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I did my research. I was looking for (current) opinions - and my 20"s weigh less than my stock wheels, but have almost identical specs (size, overall rolling diameter, offset, etc), so I'm guessing they're not an issue.

I'm not looking to go any faster than I am now. Hell, I wasn't even going to get a tune, but I got such a good deal on it (plus an extra ECU) that I couldn't pass it up. Like I said before: It's a DD. It's just a bit more fun now.

As for "Everything your saying has been said to death". That's fine. This thread will only direct more traffic to this site (via Google organic search results), bringing more members and more sponsor and/or advertising dollars. That's usually a good thing.

Originally Posted by Mike-2ptzero
Your car came with 170hp stock at the crank not the wheels, so you are looking at 215hp. Problem is that 17psi is not going to give you 215hp, there are tune out there pushing 23psi and they are claiming that type of power. The 170hp A4 1.8t came stock pushing 11psi boost, so a 6psi bump in boost is not going to give you a 45hp gain. You are most likely making around 200hp which would put you at 170whp for your FWD car with a 15% driveline loss.
Those are the numbers I was told by my tuner (215 from 170 at the crank), with a 15 hp drivetrain loss, putting me at 200 whp and that seemed reasonable to me (and my Audi tech). I didn't know what the exact % of drivetrain loss was (15% seems like a lot in a FWD. Is that a verified number?) and I didn't know if the AWM had anything special (internally) that might contribute to added gains, especially since we maxxed out the timing and fuel delivery - not to mention the redline was bumped up to 7100rpm.

Your 200 hp crank, 170 hp whp argument makes sense to me and also seems reasonable. I'll try to get some actual Dyno numbers asap, so we can know exactly what this setup is putting out (for future reference).

Thank you for your input.

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Old Mar 27, 2015 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by A4TurboGuy
but if I'm wrong about something, I'll be the first to admit it.
Obviously not, because you responded to people in this thread telling you that you were wrong (which you are) by attacking them and acting like a douche.

This thread will only direct more traffic to this site (via Google organic search results), bringing more members and more sponsor and/or advertising dollars. That's usually a good thing.
Because a 17psi tune on a FWD car is so ground breaking in the B5 community.. Ask Mike about his motor setup.
 
Old Mar 28, 2015 | 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by CCA4
I had a big long rant written out but thought better of it, this thread is lolz.
Pretty much.

As entertaining as this has been to read, let's keep it pleasant folks.
 
Old Mar 28, 2015 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by CCA4
Obviously not, because you responded to people in this thread telling you that you were wrong (which you are) by attacking them and acting like a douche.



Because a 17psi tune on a FWD car is so ground breaking in the B5 community.. Ask Mike about his motor setup.
Where have I failed to stay true to my word?.....and every (site) hit counts, regardless of how many times a subject has been "beaten to death". This thread may contain keywords that other threads don't. Ask whomever owns/hosts this forum and I'm guessing they'll agree.

Originally Posted by BaseDrifter
Pretty much.

As entertaining as this has been to read, let's keep it pleasant folks.
My apologies.

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