G13 coolant is fine for G12 system?!
#1
G13 coolant is fine for G12 system?!
I'm replacing my thermostat and the kit on ECS has what appears to be G13.
Audi B5 A4 Quattro 1.8T Engine Cooling ES#2581800 Cooling System Refresh Kit - Level 1 - 8D0959481BKT-2
1) Is g13 ok for my car
2) Do I need to flush my coolant system of g12 before adding the G13?
3) Can I still find G12 and should I use it if I can.
Thanks!
Audi B5 A4 Quattro 1.8T Engine Cooling ES#2581800 Cooling System Refresh Kit - Level 1 - 8D0959481BKT-2
1) Is g13 ok for my car
2) Do I need to flush my coolant system of g12 before adding the G13?
3) Can I still find G12 and should I use it if I can.
Thanks!
#2
I'm pretty sure Audi only sells G13 now. When I bought coolant earlier this summer, that's what they sold me and told me it's fine to add to the existing coolant.
I found that buying the G13 coolant at Audi was cheaper than buying the G12 from the local NAPA. I think Audi charged me 25 for a gallon of unmixed, and Napa wanted $30 for 1 liter of unmixed G12.
I found that buying the G13 coolant at Audi was cheaper than buying the G12 from the local NAPA. I think Audi charged me 25 for a gallon of unmixed, and Napa wanted $30 for 1 liter of unmixed G12.
#3
If you choose to use the G13 coolant, it is always wise to flush the system if it has already been drained to replace a component such as the thermostat or water pump.
#4
I've always gone with hepu g12, available at pretty much any parts store specializing in european cars, costs no more than $25 for 4 litres unmixed. If you absolutely have to use G13 for whatever reason it's fully backwards-compatible so mix all you want, it'll probably turn a weird colour thought because g12 is pink and g13 is purple.
#5
Alright thanks guys.
Hey wait! ECS sells G12++ from Pentosin. Can I use ++, +, or just regular G12?
Maybe I can ask them to sub the G12++ (if that ++ will work) into that thermo kit and charge me the $6 difference.
Just make things more kosher
Hey wait! ECS sells G12++ from Pentosin. Can I use ++, +, or just regular G12?
Maybe I can ask them to sub the G12++ (if that ++ will work) into that thermo kit and charge me the $6 difference.
Just make things more kosher
Last edited by Frozenguy; 12-17-2013 at 12:41 PM.
#6
G12++ works too, but honestly you'd be better off buying the coolant locally and save a bunch on shipping, you'd also be able to buy a gallon for the price of 2 1L bottles so you'll have a bunch left over for when you inevitably spring a leak later on. Also, in my experience ECS kits don't save you any money over buying the parts separately, and sometimes they're actually more expensive.
EDIT: Took a quick look at that kit and all I have to say is stay the hell away. It's all aftermarket parts, which is a no-no with cooling system stuff. I could walk into my local dealership right now and piece together the same kit for the same price, and everything is more expensive up in Canada. I don't know if it's just my local dealer being selling parts at less of a markup than others, but from my experience OEM cooling system parts are priced very reasonably, I've actually bought OEM parts direct from a dealer for cheaper than aftermarket.
EDIT: Took a quick look at that kit and all I have to say is stay the hell away. It's all aftermarket parts, which is a no-no with cooling system stuff. I could walk into my local dealership right now and piece together the same kit for the same price, and everything is more expensive up in Canada. I don't know if it's just my local dealer being selling parts at less of a markup than others, but from my experience OEM cooling system parts are priced very reasonably, I've actually bought OEM parts direct from a dealer for cheaper than aftermarket.
Last edited by Mad Cow; 12-17-2013 at 01:58 PM.
#8
+1 on using only genuine Audi parts for the critical items of the cooling system since they are very involved from a labour standpoint to install.
Pentosin++ is designed for Audi systems from 2006 onwards and contains silicates, which can cause clogging in the earlier systems. Pentosin 'Pentofrost SF' is for systems from mid-1996 through 2005 MY and is without silicates.
Pentosin++ is designed for Audi systems from 2006 onwards and contains silicates, which can cause clogging in the earlier systems. Pentosin 'Pentofrost SF' is for systems from mid-1996 through 2005 MY and is without silicates.
#9
How big of an issue is this? I mistakenly put some non-SF Pentosin in my AHA a couple years ago. Now I have the first heater core issues I've had in an Audi and wonder if that's the reason.
#10
When someone at a parts house says their coolant is 'compatible with all other types and brands' and can be readily mixed, walk away quickly...