t3t4 vs t3s60
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t3t4 vs t3s60
i;ve been looking and researching all over forum for what to get my 98 1.8 t as in terms of turbo upgrade. i've decided on either the t3 by Garrett or the t3s60 by Turbonetics. since i dont have enough for the exhausht manifold yet since i just got a godspeed intercooler, which turbo would be better for stock internals until i can get enough money to upgrade the size of my piping as well as going for the straight piping? after installing one of the two turbos and reflashing the ecu with a chip upgrade, how many horses can i expect?
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RE: t3t4 vs t3s60
I can't speak for the T3/T4 as I have no experice working with it, but on a friend's car a few years back we used a T3 super 60 and that turbo was an animal. Granted the car (non-Audi) was built, including the engine, but even on a lowered compression ratio, the turbo spooled extremely fast and the boost hit very hard. I've never seen a straight-up comparison of that turbo vs a T3/T4 before, so I can't speak as to which one would be better on a 1.8T - my main point in posting was to give you an idea of the characteristics of the T3s60 from my past experience. It's a wicked little turbo and dealt out the power in a big way.
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RE: t3t4 vs t3s60
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since i dont have enough for the exhausht manifold yet since i just got a godspeed intercooler, neither of those two turbos bolt up to the stock exhaust manifold
after installing one of the two turbos and reflashing the ecu with a chip upgrade, i dont know of a chip to run either turbo. youre looking at standalones
since i dont have enough for the exhausht manifold yet since i just got a godspeed intercooler, neither of those two turbos bolt up to the stock exhaust manifold
after installing one of the two turbos and reflashing the ecu with a chip upgrade, i dont know of a chip to run either turbo. youre looking at standalones
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RE: t3t4 vs t3s60
the t3s60 is around 900 new, whereas a 50 trim can be found under 700 new. The t3s60 will spool a little before 4k whereas a 50 trim will be fully spooled a little bit after 4k, but the 50 trim will make a bit more power. Personally i'd go with the 50 trim. either turbo can be run on stock internals but you will NEED an exhaust manifold and dp. the rest of the exhaust you can cheap out on if you have to by removing mufflers and putting in straight pipes. and you will also need tuning and injectors. and look into a clutch down the road if you want to launch it at all. with highway pulls the clutch should be safe tho. and the t360 will be ~325whp the 50 trim can see upwards of 350whp, with full supporting mods ~400whp
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RE: t3t4 vs t3s60
ORIGINAL: a4_shift
after installing one of the two turbos and reflashing the ecu with a chip upgrade, i dont know of a chip to run either turbo. youre looking at standalones
after installing one of the two turbos and reflashing the ecu with a chip upgrade, i dont know of a chip to run either turbo. youre looking at standalones
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RE: t3t4 vs t3s60
i'm already set on getting the 50 trim, sorry to thread jack, but I'm sure this question might be helpful to you too. what kind of mpg do people get with the 50 trim, or most big turbos in general? The answer won't stop me from getting a t3/t4, but it's good to know.
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RE: t3t4 vs t3s60
sorry not really good with cars but am learning. so your saying either turbos can be run on stock internals but i still will need an exaust manifold but i can do the piping later on rite? i am leaning towards the t3 5o trim because it has great potential and after i will get the money for piping and intake. also what is dp? also i was reading and it siad i wil need an new diverter valve and boost gauge too rite?
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RE: t3t4 vs t3s60
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the t3s60 is around 900 new, whereas a 50 trim can be found under 700 new. Both are $625.
The t3s60 will spool a little before 4k 3k
whereas a 50 trim will be fully spooled a little bit after 4k, On a .63, pre 4k on a .48
but the 50 trim will make alots more power. Personally i'd go with the 50 trim. either turbo can be run on stock internals but you will NEED an exhaust manifold and dp. the rest of the exhaust you can cheap out on if you have to by removing mufflers and putting in straight pipes. and you will also need tuning and injectors. and look into a clutch down the road if you want to launch it at all. with highway pulls the clutch should be safe tho. and the t360 will be ~300whp the 50 trim can see upwards of 350whp, with full supporting mods ~400whp
the t3s60 is around 900 new, whereas a 50 trim can be found under 700 new. Both are $625.
The t3s60 will spool a little before 4k 3k
whereas a 50 trim will be fully spooled a little bit after 4k, On a .63, pre 4k on a .48
but the 50 trim will make alots more power. Personally i'd go with the 50 trim. either turbo can be run on stock internals but you will NEED an exhaust manifold and dp. the rest of the exhaust you can cheap out on if you have to by removing mufflers and putting in straight pipes. and you will also need tuning and injectors. and look into a clutch down the road if you want to launch it at all. with highway pulls the clutch should be safe tho. and the t360 will be ~300whp the 50 trim can see upwards of 350whp, with full supporting mods ~400whp
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RE: t3t4 vs t3s60
Cincy.. let me get this right.
t3s60 will start spooling before 3k rpms.
50 trim .63 will be fully spooled a little after 4k.. so it'll start before 3k? just like the t3s60?
50 trim .48 will be fully spooled before 4k.. there for start spooling at about 2k rpms?
i just want to clarify, i want something that will spool quickly, but with some lag so it's good for daily street driving. the t3/t4 .48 seems like a winner imo.
t3s60 will start spooling before 3k rpms.
50 trim .63 will be fully spooled a little after 4k.. so it'll start before 3k? just like the t3s60?
50 trim .48 will be fully spooled before 4k.. there for start spooling at about 2k rpms?
i just want to clarify, i want something that will spool quickly, but with some lag so it's good for daily street driving. the t3/t4 .48 seems like a winner imo.
