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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 11:27 AM
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Here is the code I am getting:

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17536 - *Fuel Trim; Bank 1 (Mult): System too Lean
* * * * * * P1128 - 001 - *Upper Limit Exceeded
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I started getting this code a month or two ago and thought it was a result of the fuel filter being all clogged up. It was way past due for a fuel filter change, but hat has since been done.

I also recently changed the plugs. The MAF seems to be a common cause from others but my MAF isn't very old. Also, there are no vacuum leaks that I know of as I fixed all of those as they have popped up over the years. All of the vacuum hoses are mostly new.

Every time I clear the code (and thus reset the fuel trim memory), I get REALLY rough idle -- almost to the point of ot running. After about 30-60 seconds of that, it seems to calm down and everything runs fine, however after driving a bit the CEL comes back on and this code reappears.

Any ideas suggestions? Perhaps I'll start with some MAF cleaner, but I suspect that isn't the issue given the MAF is only about a year old.

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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 11:49 AM
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have u changed the plugs yet? and have u ever have the coils replace?
 
Old Oct 17, 2011 | 12:21 PM
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have u changed the plugs yet? and have u ever have the coils replace?
Yes on both. MAF and Coil Packs are around 1 year old. Plugs are only a couple of weeks old.

Attached is a screen shot of some measuring blocks as seen at idle. It's weird that 032 is 0% no matter what.... isn't it?

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Old Oct 18, 2011 | 05:37 PM
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are the wires that lead to the coils in good shape? All the connections are snug and everything. Sometimes the wires become britttle with all the heat under the engine cover.
 
Old Oct 18, 2011 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by pa4ul
are the wires that lead to the coils in good shape? All the connections are snug and everything. Sometimes the wires become britttle with all the heat under the engine cover.
They are a bit brittle, but not extremely.

What exactly is that 032 measuring block anyway?

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Old Oct 19, 2011 | 10:01 AM
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Ahh okay, I get it now... those values adjust something like the richness offset and/or injector timing values offset based on what the ECU calculates from the O2 sensor about how efficiently the mixture is burning (as a result of how accurate the timing of the injectors is). I had just cleared the codes before I read that measuring block value, so it hadn't had time to re-adjust very much.

I have been driving it a bit (and have CEL on again), so I'll go pull the codes and read that measuring block at lunch time if it isn't still raining.

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Old Oct 19, 2011 | 10:03 AM
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From VWVortex.com - VAG-COM procedures for testing the MAF, O2 sensors and catalytic converter

Block 032 - Oxygen Sensor Control Learned Values

- Go to Block 032. Field 1 represents the fuel trim at idle (additive) and Field 2 represents the fuel trim at part load (multiplicative), i.e., while driving. The value should be between -10 and +10% (negative indicates the engine is running rich and positive indicates the engine is running lean). If the value is close to +25% (which is the upper limit), it usually means that the MAF is bad. If the value is somewhere betweeen +10 and +25%, it could mean that the pre-cat oxygen sensor is bad, there is a leak in the intake or that the MAF is on it's way out. The value I found for my car (VR6), which has a new 2.0 MAF and new oxygen sensors is +1.6%.
 
Old Oct 19, 2011 | 03:41 PM
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Well, here is the measuring block 032 after running it for a while (and once the CEL has come back on). I will clean the MAF in the next few days and see how that goes. Looking at the MAF readings (measuring block 002), I see normal readings at idle (~3 g/s).

I'll post back how the clean MAF works.

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Old Oct 28, 2011 | 04:34 PM
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I got a ALT engine 2.0 petrol, whit this problem. I got this vaccum kit 06B 133 751 AT and it work again.
 
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