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Old Dec 27, 2011 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by auriga123
Hey fellas

Been researching Audi forums lately and decided to get an ECU tune. Having bought a 2005 A4 2.0T quattro, I want it to keep it as a family car --> keep as stock as possible

I have decided to get a stage 2 tune, so my questions are:

1) only modification i need is ECU tune (obviously)+downpipe ? I cant justiffy spending $2500 on a full exhaust system.

2) do i require a CAI ? (I'm leaning towards not havingit, as it only makes 1/2 hp increase and is only a cosmetic/sound piece ??)

3) For the ECU tune, I want the giac tune as its the most aggressive however, i see that it once u get the stage 2 tune, you have the CEL problem (APR doesn't have this), can this be fixed easily/cost effectively ?

4) Fuel economy is also important as i do 95% urban driving, with the above combo, will i get better fuel mileage, assuming i drive the same in my stock car

5) Any noticeable difference between stage 2/2+ ? assuming i don't get fuel cuts, is this even necessary ?

Thanks, any help is greatly appreciated !

P.S. Did i miss anything ?
My stickey up top covers all this.

All you need is a stage 2 tune and testpipe. Under $100 on Ebay. No Downpipe needed if you go this route. Much Cheaper.

The GIAC tune as stated in my stickey will NOT fix the engine light. I would go with APR, REVO or Unitronic if any of them have a dealer near you. Gains will be about the same from all 3.

Fuel milage will vary by the lead in your foot. In theory it will get better milage but I could never keep my foot soft.

Stage 2 and Stage 2+ is a big difference in power, but for cost reasons you may just want stage 2 to start with.

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Old Dec 27, 2011 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by auriga123
Esandes, You beauty !!

Thanks a lot champ, saved me heaps of money and time !!

Now this might sound like a dumb question, but seeing as i have a LHD car, will it still fit properly ? reason i ask, is some websites state their exhaust systems/parts will not work with LHD cars.


Last thing, After i receive the down pipe, do i just go to my local performance exhaust shop and tell them to weld it on ?? don't want to sound like an idiot when i actually go there lol (1st modding experience ever)

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hey bro, that's what i'm here for. as for fit, check with the manufacturer. no, the pipes all bolt up. tell the mechanic to be careful with the nuts and studs and to re-use them for the install. those things are meant for the extreme high temperatures. my mechanic was so good the bolts don't even have a damn scratch on them. be sure to get the gasket set from the place you get the tube from.

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One last thing, what do you reckon of a downpipe+testpipe combo ?
honestly, if i could go back in time i would have gotten the RAI catless downpipe. it's a direct bolt on, just like the test pipe.

on another note, when i used to be heavily involved in modifying engines and drivetrains for performance, one of the best bolt ons were ceramic coated long tube headers. the downpipe is somewhat like the long tube header, which made for more power than other types of headers. but i don't see any more people doing the ceramic coating anymore. why's that?
 
Old Dec 27, 2011 | 01:36 PM
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You definitely don't want to weld anything. if it doesn't come off or go in, you heat it and bang on it with a rubber hammer or use wood blocks or something that won't damage it, until it loosens/fits. If you weld it, it will rust at the weld point if not welded properly and most mechanics won't weld it properly (yes, even if it is stainless steel).
 
Old Dec 27, 2011 | 02:58 PM
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They actually bolt up very easy as well. The trick is to drive the car first and get it warm / hot. It will expand the metal so it will lossen up. Wear gloves and a long sleeve shirt for burn protecton. It can be done on a set of drive up ramps to save money.

That expensive downpipe will not net you much power as the main restriction is mostly in the cat.
 
Old Dec 27, 2011 | 07:51 PM
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Thanks fellas

Good to know there are people on these forums who give up their time to help a fellow Audi owner out !


So for recommendations,

1) ill get the downpipe with the High flow cat or no Cat ? Wont removing the Cat give me loud cabin noise ?

2) The downpipe kits are bolt on --> tell mechanic to use same bolts/nuts to simply add-on/bolt-on the new downpipe.

3) Will go APR due to CEL

Now i have a further question regarding the HPFP:

1) Although I will get the APR HPFP, I'm sh*t scared of it failing, and consequently getting a new motor ! I will be using this vehicle for a very long time, so my question is, are there any reported cases of this happening say over long period of time, say 50-100k miles of driving ?

2) Fuel mileage: Iv been reading that once the HPFP is installed, some forum member actually had better fuel mileage, how can this be true, wont getting the HPFP deliver more fuel, hence more fuel being used ?


Finally, Overall will the fuel mileage increase or decrease, assuming i drive "normally", seeing as this car gets used 7 days a week in urban driving+using 98RON petrol, will i get better mileage ?


Thanks Fellas, appreciate your help greatly !
 
Old Dec 28, 2011 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by auriga123
Thanks fellas

Good to know there are people on these forums who give up their time to help a fellow Audi owner out !


So for recommendations,

1) ill get the downpipe with the High flow cat or no Cat ? Wont removing the Cat give me loud cabin noise ?

2) The downpipe kits are bolt on --> tell mechanic to use same bolts/nuts to simply add-on/bolt-on the new downpipe.

3) Will go APR due to CEL

Now i have a further question regarding the HPFP:

1) Although I will get the APR HPFP, I'm sh*t scared of it failing, and consequently getting a new motor ! I will be using this vehicle for a very long time, so my question is, are there any reported cases of this happening say over long period of time, say 50-100k miles of driving ?

2) Fuel mileage: Iv been reading that once the HPFP is installed, some forum member actually had better fuel mileage, how can this be true, wont getting the HPFP deliver more fuel, hence more fuel being used ?


Finally, Overall will the fuel mileage increase or decrease, assuming i drive "normally", seeing as this car gets used 7 days a week in urban driving+using 98RON petrol, will i get better mileage ?


Thanks Fellas, appreciate your help greatly !
Seems you are coving the same questions over and over here.

1. You don't need the DP. Just a test pipe. It's only like 80 bucks on Ebay. If you keep the stock exhaust it will not be lous at all. You may even be dissapointed it is so quiet.
2. Use the stock nuts. Unless it happens to come with new ones.

As far as the Fuel pump goes, you have to play to pay. If you are going to be super paranoid just do a stage 2 and leave the pump stock. You will be pushing your engine pretty hard and maybe you should just play it safe.

As covered before, fuel ecomomy will improve if you keep a soft foot. The larger fuel pump will work like stock unless you need the extra fuel by hot rodding.
 
Old Dec 29, 2011 | 04:22 AM
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Thanks champ, covered all my questions
 
Old Jan 12, 2012 | 09:20 AM
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Hi Guys

I just ordered this downpipe: RAI 2.0 TFSI 3" Downpipe for Tiptronic

However, I drive a RHD version of the car, will it still fit ( upon research, i know it wont fit B8's but since the 2.0T b7 are transverse engines, are they ok ?

Emailed these guys, but they never replied

P.S. they have a toll-free number on their site, could someone quickly confirm so i can cancel my order !!

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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 10:35 AM
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Im just curious why you spent so much when an $80 test pipe would have been fine?
 
Old Jan 13, 2012 | 12:24 AM
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are we talking about same gains or smaller ??

The only reason i went with the downpipe was a) more KWasps b) less cabin noise (dont want a ricer)
 



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