I have read more than enough things on how turbos work and how to size it to your application. I have built a custom setup on my mistu lancer and I have proven that i know what i am talking about time and time again (ask anyone here or on vortex). If you want i will hold your hand and walk you along on how a turbo REALLY WORKS. So get over it and read the links that everyone has given you so you can apologize for all your slander and still save face. You can call me anything you want, but i will still be right.

 

so the answer is, no you havent studied anything, and you just whent with information from furums, thats is usually posted by people like you, that have read something from somewhere that was writed by someone that was simply thinking of some wierd ideas.

You have never learned the scientific side of it. Well you have missed a lot.

 

I have read you idiot and no, not forums. How else would it explain that i understand what is going on and you seem to be clueless? I wouldnt take anyones knowledge on a forum unless they have proventhat they know what they are talking about. Otherwise i may run across someone like you and ef up my car. But what you still havent grasped is thatthere is a differnce in reading and interupting it. Just because you can regergitate the tech info doesnt mean you understand it. You beleive you understand it and that is bad. You really need to take the advise that i have posted above and by those on vortex and use it. When you understand what we are talking about with flow, you will have a good grasp one the subject. So read up more and bash less before the flaming on here and vortex gets worse.

 

Coming back on what this argument was based on.
Simple Question for You, True or False.
If two diferent turbos, that overlap at some point, are used on specific engine. The turbos are set to overlaping boost and engine RPM. Would both turbos produce equal amount of air flow at t hat RPM. Excluding thermal expension, intake restriction, exaust restriction, and intake volume.
If false, why is it false.

Not answering this, would mean I am right.

 

False, same rpm point with equal load will have the same pressure, but the increase in flow will put more air,require more fuel, and result in more power. Compare this t3s60 and a ko3 graph. Spool is very close but the 60trim is far more effecient and flows way more cfm with its larger compressor and turbine wheels. Just look at 5k rpms, both are at 19-20psi of PRESSURE. If this doesnt make it clear along with the real engineers on vortex, you need to go back to your books.





@5k same load, same pressure, same throttle position. If this doesnt show you what you need, i dont know what will. The bad things is that you know what you have learned in your class and is dangerous because you are missinterupting it in this case. I am NOT an engineer, i am a marketing student in my last semester. The advantage i have in this arguement is i know this AND ONLY this. I will not confuse it with anything else. So i will take your apology now.

 

Diference is only 50ftlb.
The second graph runs much more reacher, and from what I have read about that car that run, it had a good amount of mods. If I make a streight flow exaust on my car, port and polish, new tune map, I would have 220HP about from 180 stock.
While the K03 tops out at about 4500RPM
the T3 runs strong all the way.
The K03 runs from 2K to 4.5K
the T3 runs from 3.5K to 7K
Plus:
the stock car has to run between 15.5:1 to 13.5:1 AFR, other wise it wont be steer legal
While after market doesnt care, the T3 runs 12.5:1 AFR

This comparisons are not really scientific, as there are no valid data.
Valid data is a spread ****, of RPM, HP, ftlb, AFR, boost/vacum. optional intake charge temp, exaust temperature.

WAITING for apology. Be a bigger man, and just give up, you have messed with a wrong guy.

 

How is me being right and having and entire forum laughing at you hoping it was joke make you right? You have NOTHING. Give up, save face, and get over it. The more you talk the worse you sound. Read the books that others and i have told you to read and learn how turbos work, not generic formulas.

 

hmm, if I am wrong, and you have yet to present your side of the argument.
I am calling you to do scientific prove to this problem, that would suport your claim.

 

Im still waiting to see you prove that the heat in a 20psi ko3 is the same as a gt28r (there is not gt28 for the 42 time, there is a t28 but not a gt28!!!)

How is a ko3 making the power of a gt35r at the same boost level?

You have no idea what you are talking about. You are using formulas for things that do not apply here.

* you have contridicted yourself so many times in this and the other thread it would take a day or two to post them all.

 

This is what I wrote on a VWvortex forums
This copy and paste of my post
20psi on an engine of 2L at 5000RPM.
2L*5000RPM/2=5000L/min
PR=(20+14.7)psi / 14.7psi=2.36
5000*2.36=11800L/min
11800L/min of Volume needed on a 2L engine running at 5000RPM.
P*V=n*R*T
pressure*Volume=#moles*Constant*Temperature
Who forgot this simple formula
Efficiency provide Temperature, it can be calculated who doesn't know.
#moles varies with the temperature.
pressure and Volume stays the same.Variables are n and T, constants are P, V, R.
=================================================
d=V/n
density = Volume / # moles
Volume constant, # moles and density change as a function of Temperature.
d=R*T/P
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Tout=Tin(PR)^0.283
20C in as an example
Tout=(273+20)*(2.36)^0.283=373K
373K-273K=100C out temp, or 80C raise
80C/eff=actual
80/0.7=114C
80/0.6=133C
10% in efficiency diference=19C diference
Compressor side discharge temperature would be 134C if its 70% eff, 153C if its 60% eff
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134C=407K
153C=426K
d1=R*407/34.7
d2=R*426/34.7
d1/d2=407/426=0.95
meaning that a turbo with 60% eff would produce only 95% of posible power that a 70% eff turbo. a 300HP engine with 70% eff turbo, would produce only 285HP with 60% eff turbo, or 15HP diference.

I did the math, waiting for you to do the same.
You are the first person that have guts to apose me, for that I take my hat off.