Obamas national address to students
#11
They took out the part that specifically addresses 'Barrack Obama' instead of 'the President' or 'country'.
You guys that think this guy walks on water should read up on history.
How about the PSA that says 'I pledge to serve Barack Obama'?
Give me a break...
You guys that think this guy walks on water should read up on history.
How about the PSA that says 'I pledge to serve Barack Obama'?
Give me a break...
#12
actually I did read the site.. in fact, I also read the PDFs that were posted... and I quote:
"• Teachers may engage students in short readings. Teachers may post in large print around the classroom notable quotes excerpted from President Obama’s speeches on education. "
"• Teachers can build background knowledge about the President of the United States and his speech by reading books about presidents and Barack Obama.
I realize this is all "suggested" teaching and resource tools, but im sure many teachers will just read off the handout word for word. And about it being optional, no one had said anything about it to parents as far as I know. this is next tuesday, with no school monday.. and my parents only found out last night, because I heard about it. There was no note, or permission forms sent home. Apparently now they are going to make it optional, but nothing was mentioned before today.
I agree that something needs to be done with the education system and that kids do need to do better in school. But I think that parents need to do a lot more to make this happen.
"• Teachers may engage students in short readings. Teachers may post in large print around the classroom notable quotes excerpted from President Obama’s speeches on education. "
"• Teachers can build background knowledge about the President of the United States and his speech by reading books about presidents and Barack Obama.
I realize this is all "suggested" teaching and resource tools, but im sure many teachers will just read off the handout word for word. And about it being optional, no one had said anything about it to parents as far as I know. this is next tuesday, with no school monday.. and my parents only found out last night, because I heard about it. There was no note, or permission forms sent home. Apparently now they are going to make it optional, but nothing was mentioned before today.
I agree that something needs to be done with the education system and that kids do need to do better in school. But I think that parents need to do a lot more to make this happen.
#13
Coorect, before it wasnt optional. In most districts it is still mandated. The parants that do not want it and keep thier kids at him are being condemned... this is all wrong.
The thing is, most presidents do something like this, where they pick a school or two and do insperational speeches at the beginning of the school year. the problem here is is that Obama as interjected himself into the curriculum. Not the 'President' or 'Country' or 'Neighbors' or what ever. There was a line in the work sheet (which I bet you didnt read yet and is whats at the heart of this debate) actually had things like 'Write about what you can do to help Barack Obama'. Again, not the 'President' or 'Country', but 'Barack Obama'. Since when was the OFFICE more about the MAN? Its called 'The Office of the President of the United States' for a reason! Hitler, Saddam, Quaddafe, Stalin, etc did the same damn thing. 'Serve our Glorious Leader!'
The thing is, most presidents do something like this, where they pick a school or two and do insperational speeches at the beginning of the school year. the problem here is is that Obama as interjected himself into the curriculum. Not the 'President' or 'Country' or 'Neighbors' or what ever. There was a line in the work sheet (which I bet you didnt read yet and is whats at the heart of this debate) actually had things like 'Write about what you can do to help Barack Obama'. Again, not the 'President' or 'Country', but 'Barack Obama'. Since when was the OFFICE more about the MAN? Its called 'The Office of the President of the United States' for a reason! Hitler, Saddam, Quaddafe, Stalin, etc did the same damn thing. 'Serve our Glorious Leader!'
#14
lol... I have no man crush on the guy - in fact I find it EXTREMELY funny - back in 2001 all I heard from my liberal friends was:
"This isn't MY President!"
"Who does this guy think he is?"
"He stole the election with the help of the Supreme Court."
Yada yada yada ad nauseum....
Now we have another President trying to do his best yet now it seems all kinds of wild speculations and suppositions are imposed on anything the guy does likes it's all some deep seated conspiracy (now that the "birther" movement lost steam).
And I will say to you as I said to my liberal tree hugging, socialist leaning friends....
"Get over it."
Honestly, I'd rather listen to the whining and crying of the liberals back then than the extremely misguided and angry neo-cons of today... sheesh!
"This isn't MY President!"
"Who does this guy think he is?"
"He stole the election with the help of the Supreme Court."
Yada yada yada ad nauseum....
Now we have another President trying to do his best yet now it seems all kinds of wild speculations and suppositions are imposed on anything the guy does likes it's all some deep seated conspiracy (now that the "birther" movement lost steam).
And I will say to you as I said to my liberal tree hugging, socialist leaning friends....
"Get over it."
Honestly, I'd rather listen to the whining and crying of the liberals back then than the extremely misguided and angry neo-cons of today... sheesh!
#15
You have no idea what the actual health care document says do you? I like to keep myself informed on (get this novel idea) I pay attention to both sides of the debate and try to stay on top of all the flak the president is receiving. But like pali said, Mr President seems like he can't make anyone happy. When he's a republican, the democrats are mad, when he's democrat, the republicans are mad. When is the bipartisanship going to stop? All it's doing is hurting the people.
Last edited by Lut3s; 09-04-2009 at 12:40 AM. Reason: Fix a name
#16
What's really bugging me this go around is the doomsayers - everywhere you turn you have people staring cross-eyed at everything.
So what if the President wants to talk to the children and show how a child of mixed race and poor to moderate income can achieve the highest office in our land by studying, working hard for better grades and trying to acheive more than the status quo... that's a crap load better than telling them - hey Johnny, you got a D this semester but since you can at least spell your name correctly (4 times out of 5) we'll move you up a grade and hope that they don't fail you as badly as we just did.
I'll never forget the look on Bush's face when he was physically in a classroom with children and was told that the World Trade Center had just been attack. The look of bewilderment was obvious. And if I was in that position I would have had the same dumbfounded look as well.
Yet all I heard from the Dems were - "How stupid did he look then?" "Why did he go hide in Air Force One while the nation needed him?"
Guess what, he was there to inspire children and was caught "off-guard" like everyone else. Keeping his whereabouts is standard operating procedure considering the attack. The man did a fine job once we realized the significance and scope of the attack.
That is until he took us on a war rampage.... but that's another story...
Give it a rest people.
Brainwashing? To quote Pennn and Teller, "Bullshit". Pushing a socialist agenda? More bullshit. Wasting taxpayers money? Beyond bullshit.
Quit listening to Beck, Hannity and Limbaugh.
So what if the President wants to talk to the children and show how a child of mixed race and poor to moderate income can achieve the highest office in our land by studying, working hard for better grades and trying to acheive more than the status quo... that's a crap load better than telling them - hey Johnny, you got a D this semester but since you can at least spell your name correctly (4 times out of 5) we'll move you up a grade and hope that they don't fail you as badly as we just did.
I'll never forget the look on Bush's face when he was physically in a classroom with children and was told that the World Trade Center had just been attack. The look of bewilderment was obvious. And if I was in that position I would have had the same dumbfounded look as well.
Yet all I heard from the Dems were - "How stupid did he look then?" "Why did he go hide in Air Force One while the nation needed him?"
Guess what, he was there to inspire children and was caught "off-guard" like everyone else. Keeping his whereabouts is standard operating procedure considering the attack. The man did a fine job once we realized the significance and scope of the attack.
That is until he took us on a war rampage.... but that's another story...
Give it a rest people.
Brainwashing? To quote Pennn and Teller, "Bullshit". Pushing a socialist agenda? More bullshit. Wasting taxpayers money? Beyond bullshit.
Quit listening to Beck, Hannity and Limbaugh.
#18
Oh I have - thanks to Beck scaring the **** out of my 90 yr grandfather... the only way to counteract the stupidity that permeates most from those three.
My grandfather served in WW2 and even voted for Roosevelt all three times. Thought Eisenhower, Kennedy, Reagan and both Bushes were great - couldn't stand the Clintons (can't argue with him there).
Yet he bought into the Birther bullshit (took weeks and finally Anne Coulter to denounce them as quacks before he was convinced) the Muslim faith bullshit, the recent Beck inspired Obama is a racist bullshit and I'm certain there will be more...
Simply I've never seen such nonsense at such a base level before... and people buy into it - my grandfather's faculties aren't what they use to be 20 yrs ago - yet I see younger people villify any action - large or small - taken by this adminstration as some covert ops, socialist agenda...
My grandfather served in WW2 and even voted for Roosevelt all three times. Thought Eisenhower, Kennedy, Reagan and both Bushes were great - couldn't stand the Clintons (can't argue with him there).
Yet he bought into the Birther bullshit (took weeks and finally Anne Coulter to denounce them as quacks before he was convinced) the Muslim faith bullshit, the recent Beck inspired Obama is a racist bullshit and I'm certain there will be more...
Simply I've never seen such nonsense at such a base level before... and people buy into it - my grandfather's faculties aren't what they use to be 20 yrs ago - yet I see younger people villify any action - large or small - taken by this adminstration as some covert ops, socialist agenda...
#19
I think a made a mistake joining in the pool of thoughts. Regardless Lut3s, I kind of know what's going on not by watching the news, debates, yada yada yada, but when the bulletins come down to my area. Don't get me wrong, you are correct about the man not being able to please everyone. I just don't know that we have a CIC that has a lot of liberal ideas, That's just me, now I will proceed to retire from this thread and just watch the from the sideline.
#20
When it comes to Obama; he really wants to make everyone happy. Obviously he has never heard the saying "you can please some of the people all of the time, all of the people some of the time, but you can never please ALL of the people ALL of the time." That's what he is trying to do. Please everyone. It's what he promised because he wanted to win so badly and now he can't deliver. His first 100 days are reminiscent of Jimmy Carter and all most people care about is his wife's hair. No one seemed to find it suspicious or ludacris when he pretty much told the American public that he could give us everything for nothing. That he would snap his fingers and fix everything. A little over half the population stepped in the bullshit and now they defend themselves and Barack because all they have left is words. They are embarrassed, upset, and probably feel pretty foolish. Barack doesn't have the know-how to lead a group this large out of a paper bag but he sure as **** made 53% of the population believe he did.