water/meth kits are such a hassle though...

 

and will have an even greater effect on a k04 car with some nice smic's

 

what is such a hassle?

install it, tune it, fill it up twice a month

 

people just think that w/m kits are hard cause they dont know anything about them at all or how to put them it, if they did everyone would have one

 

overpriced kit. buy the turbos go to a local shop have them make the plumbing and downpipes and exhaust. do front mount. swap fuel system get a tune save $. more power. kits are to exspensive because of the "target market"my 2 cents

 

talking about custom pluming, do you think it would be cheaper to get custom down pipes n cat back rather than pay for awe's down pipes and borlas cat back? technically speaking, if the pipe diameters are the same, so should the power gains right (putting aside workmanship quality, such as smoothness inside the pipes them self.)[>:]?

 

much cheaper for custom pipes. i just had a local performance shop fab turbo back exhaust 3 inch straight pipes for $400. not stainless but who cares. sounds wicked looks awesome makes power for sure. ill post pics up soon. thats half the price of just the borla cat back. sounds better makes much more power. just make sure its mandrel bent tubing.

 

we spaced the o2s about 2.5 inches out and they dont throw codes. for some reason the "legal" downpipes have failed around here in st louis. the local apr dealer has been trying to let them know about the problem