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Reliability???

Old Jan 1, 2008 | 09:41 PM
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I was recently looking at a 2000 Nagaro Blue S4 automatic with a 100,000 miles on it. It seems to be well taken care of, just was serviced with new timing belt and all fluids changed. But was really just curious on the reliability of the car. If some of you could post back with some of the little fixes or problems that may have arose with your own cars that would be great.

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Miles
 
Old Jan 1, 2008 | 10:04 PM
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um the turbos should blow soon.. so if they havent been replaced then youll prolly be doing them soon... there also might be some leaks in the engine air flow.... but all the repairs are great becuase you can always put performance upgrades in and turn the s4 into a monster
 
Old Jan 1, 2008 | 10:30 PM
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if you can do alot of work yourself then you'll be able to save $$$
 
Old Jan 1, 2008 | 11:00 PM
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yeah a garage and plenty of tools saves thousands.
 
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 11:03 AM
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Look into the cost of replacing turbo's, make sure you have the money available. If you don't have the ability to pull the motor out yourself, then I believe that shops charge big bucks for that repair. Could be anywhere from 3 to 5 grand total,that includes the cost of the turbos, depending on who you talk to.

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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 11:23 AM
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Why dont the turbos have thatlong of a lifespan? And secondly if the turbos were worn wouldnt there be a sign such as a white puff of smoke at start up or oil consumption?

And just for interests sake i think i read that the motor must be pulled to do the turbo swap??
 
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 11:37 AM
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That is true. although I have heard of people doing it by replacing the front assembly of the car...doesent seem worth it to me as you can replace many things on the way to removing the engine.
 
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 03:02 PM
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if I was to do it again... I would do it like this.

disconnect all the wiring, remove the three boltsat the top of each strut, disconnect the drivestaft, disconnectthe exhaust from the car, not nessicarily disconnect from the motor, just disconnect so that it could come down with the whole front suspension, then hit the 4 front subframe bolts and drop the entire front end of the car and move the rear up or out of the way. ov'course that means you would have to do an alignment...

Probably too much work, but it would just seem easier to yank the motor/trans/suspension all as one piece... yanking just the motor was a REAL PITA, so much stuff to take off just to get the bolts for everything, and all of it was so tight, I have a hard time believing that anyone could swap the turbos without pulling the motor.

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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 06:40 PM
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Thanks for the insight on everything, are the turbos guaranteed to go after 100,000 miles or should an unmolested version be ok for a daily driver.

The whole changing turbos doesnt sound too bad dropping the sub frame is a task but it would be much easier than pulling the motor, just takes some patience and know how.

thanks,

Miles
 
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 06:47 PM
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mine is unmolested, 88k and whining when cold, I think that is the reason the guy sold so cheap, but I don't care, I'll replace them when they blow, or before, if I get an itch... but I'm the type that will go from stage 1 to 4. I'm not going to spend any money that won't equal more HP/TQ, or might end up disgarded in the future.
 

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