2000 2.7T: Turbo went out! Help!!!
I'm getting the run around from the dealer where I bought the car. We asked for a written estimate for the repairs several times since last Thursday and they haven't sent it yet. Can anyone recommend a German car specialist in the Chicago area with reasonable prices? The Audi dealer in Tinly wants 7k to do the job and I'd rather not pay that much.
Try this place in Carlinville http://www.areadiesel.com/
They came highly recommended by my Turbo guy here in CA. Not sure what they would charge but they know what to do with rebuilding and installing turbos.
Good luck.
They came highly recommended by my Turbo guy here in CA. Not sure what they would charge but they know what to do with rebuilding and installing turbos.
Good luck.
Ok, I finally got a written estimate from the dealer (not Audi). The estimate isn't detailed regarding a breaddown of what the parts cost, but the description of what is wrong states "found liftgates in turbos are stuck in closed position". The price for repairs is $3,300. Does that sound correct? Is the price fair or reasonable?
Funny thing just happened, I had my wife fax me the estimate that Audi of Tinley gave us and the parts price for the turbos is $1,980! I called the dealer back (not Audi) and found out they had indeed included labor in the $3300 price and told me the price. Now they say the price for parts only will be around $1800. I told him to fax the revised estimate to me and I'd sign it and fax it back so they can get started. We'll see what game they try to play next.
Liftgates, arent thouths a wastegates opening.
and if they stuck it would mean overboost. but if stock in open position witch is more posible from carbon deposit. for the sake of an argument lets say your wife does not rev the engine high. and you/her put a oxydized fuel in the car, which is possible becouse of the winter and stupid rulles from people above. that coused an acesive build up of a carbon. and tously becouse turbo did not work 100% but lets say 5 % the carbon builded in the part where thee is more trafic thats is turbo and wastegate. then becouse turbo did not work a 100% and when engine actually did rev high the boost coused the wastegate open more that it should thously jaming on the unworked part of the wastegate. now when your wife told that black smoke and other stuff, you whent out and actually flored the car thously opening even more the wastegate.
This is a lot of speculation, and I believe that the "found liftgates in turbos are stuck in closed position". is refering wastegate's liftgates.
the What I would do is go to regular mech and let them take off the peace of exaust that goes after turbo and move it aside and let the use a cleaning solution to take the carbon deposit or anything that jaming unjemed. then put let them check if actually the liftgate is opening and closing with ease.
http://www.auto-innovations.com/site...turbo-audi.gif
My own regular mechs are easy to work with. I come only to them, so they take minimum to actually work on my car. like both front schocks to replace costed me 250+tax and I think thats cheap.
You have to show that you are mechanically incline to do somethink, then they will feel that they wont be able to mess with you and will actually do the work.
on the other note, replacing turbo is no big deal, buy a pair of new turbo or rebuild and just go to a shop and actually make them ONLY replace them. It will take no more that 3 hours to finish the work. The turbo is hanging there all you do is unscrew one and screw another in. like 10 nuts.
PS if someone has diferent idea or something please express it. and if I'm wrong just say quato me and type "I desagree, In my opinion ....." or "No, you wrong, the ........" BUT no that "You f***ing mo**n, do a reasearch you fre@king bit**h........"
and if they stuck it would mean overboost. but if stock in open position witch is more posible from carbon deposit. for the sake of an argument lets say your wife does not rev the engine high. and you/her put a oxydized fuel in the car, which is possible becouse of the winter and stupid rulles from people above. that coused an acesive build up of a carbon. and tously becouse turbo did not work 100% but lets say 5 % the carbon builded in the part where thee is more trafic thats is turbo and wastegate. then becouse turbo did not work a 100% and when engine actually did rev high the boost coused the wastegate open more that it should thously jaming on the unworked part of the wastegate. now when your wife told that black smoke and other stuff, you whent out and actually flored the car thously opening even more the wastegate.
This is a lot of speculation, and I believe that the "found liftgates in turbos are stuck in closed position". is refering wastegate's liftgates.
the What I would do is go to regular mech and let them take off the peace of exaust that goes after turbo and move it aside and let the use a cleaning solution to take the carbon deposit or anything that jaming unjemed. then put let them check if actually the liftgate is opening and closing with ease.
http://www.auto-innovations.com/site...turbo-audi.gif
My own regular mechs are easy to work with. I come only to them, so they take minimum to actually work on my car. like both front schocks to replace costed me 250+tax and I think thats cheap.
You have to show that you are mechanically incline to do somethink, then they will feel that they wont be able to mess with you and will actually do the work.
on the other note, replacing turbo is no big deal, buy a pair of new turbo or rebuild and just go to a shop and actually make them ONLY replace them. It will take no more that 3 hours to finish the work. The turbo is hanging there all you do is unscrew one and screw another in. like 10 nuts.
PS if someone has diferent idea or something please express it. and if I'm wrong just say quato me and type "I desagree, In my opinion ....." or "No, you wrong, the ........" BUT no that "You f***ing mo**n, do a reasearch you fre@king bit**h........"
Yep. That is what I thought when I saw "liftgates". I agree with kakarot on getting the wastegates out and clean them before moving on. The turbos may still be in good running condition for a few K miles.
On the other hand, if they are willing to put in new turbos for $3300 with labor and parts included I would let them do it, keep all the old parts and skip the hassle and unknowns.
On the other hand, if they are willing to put in new turbos for $3300 with labor and parts included I would let them do it, keep all the old parts and skip the hassle and unknowns.
According to both the Audi dealer and the dealership where I bought my car the engine has to be removed in order to replace the stock turbos. I received the revised estimate today for $1,860. Much, MUCH better than $7,000!
Thanks to everyone for all the help. You all have helped me maintain my sanity and composure while I dealt with this.
Thanks to everyone for all the help. You all have helped me maintain my sanity and composure while I dealt with this.
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I dont know if I agree about having to remove the engine to replace the stock spinners.
I dont know if I agree about having to remove the engine to replace the stock spinners.
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