Aquamist Water Injection Kit 1S from thettshop any good?
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RE: Aquamist Water Injection Kit 1S from thettshop any good?
how many maps have people gone threw and how many mafs have most gone threw? It really doesnt matter which you use, but i do think most people use map kits.
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RE: Aquamist Water Injection Kit 1S from thettshop any good?
ORIGINAL: cincyTT
what? all you do is connect up a couple of wires and your done with the hard part, no "engineering" involved. Its really not that complicated. Plus, snowperformance is FAR more popular with vw/audi guys than aquamist here in the states.
** also inthe link, just because its from thettshop doesnt mean its a bolt on kit, cause guess what, its not. youll have to do the same things as the other 2 kits i listed.
what? all you do is connect up a couple of wires and your done with the hard part, no "engineering" involved. Its really not that complicated. Plus, snowperformance is FAR more popular with vw/audi guys than aquamist here in the states.
** also inthe link, just because its from thettshop doesnt mean its a bolt on kit, cause guess what, its not. youll have to do the same things as the other 2 kits i listed.
http://www.snowperformance.net/product.php?pk=8
If so... it comes with two nozzles... is that sufficient for a dual injection system or would it require more than just extra nozzles? Additionally, it says you'll need a seperate VC100 controller for anything higher than 25psi; I run right under that now, so for me to get any real "gains" from this... I'll need to dial up to about 28psi, correct? Although I would more than likely use this not for boosting higher... but rather for keeping what Im running now at a better condition and cooler boost temps. Does this sound even remotely correct?
oh btw... yea very amateur question... but MAF stands for Mass Air Flow... what does MAP stand for and wherre is it and what does it do? heh
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RE: Aquamist Water Injection Kit 1S from thettshop any good?
Stage 2 Map Kit: (Set psi on and psi off, connect to a boost source ie: DV/BOV)
http://www.snowperformance.net/product.php?pk=8
Stage 2 Maf Kit: (Set voltage on and off, connect to MAF output wire)
http://www.snowperformance.net/product.php?pk=9
Dual Nozzle Extra set-up:
http://www.snowperformance.net/product.php?pk=17
In addition they are comming out with a TB plate that will allow you to hook the w/m injection right after the TB. If you decide to get this you will need this, so when under vaccum it wont suck water out:
http://www.snowperformance.net/product.php?pk=20
The link to all their products, and remember it dosent have to be vehicle specific!
http://www.snowperformance.net/products.php?p_cat=324
http://www.snowperformance.net/product.php?pk=8
Stage 2 Maf Kit: (Set voltage on and off, connect to MAF output wire)
http://www.snowperformance.net/product.php?pk=9
Dual Nozzle Extra set-up:
http://www.snowperformance.net/product.php?pk=17
In addition they are comming out with a TB plate that will allow you to hook the w/m injection right after the TB. If you decide to get this you will need this, so when under vaccum it wont suck water out:
http://www.snowperformance.net/product.php?pk=20
The link to all their products, and remember it dosent have to be vehicle specific!
http://www.snowperformance.net/products.php?p_cat=324
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RE: Aquamist Water Injection Kit 1S from thettshop any good?
ORIGINAL: 225tt
In addition they are comming out with a TB plate that will allow you to hook the w/m injection right after the TB. If you decide to get this you will need this, so when under vaccum it wont suck water out:
http://www.snowperformance.net/product.php?pk=20
In addition they are comming out with a TB plate that will allow you to hook the w/m injection right after the TB. If you decide to get this you will need this, so when under vaccum it wont suck water out:
http://www.snowperformance.net/product.php?pk=20
When you set it up this way... the cumulative volume of w/m injected does not change but is distributed throughout the different nozzles, correct? The thinner you stretch it... the less effective each will be though right?
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RE: Aquamist Water Injection Kit 1S from thettshop any good?
Yes right after the TB so in theory yes you would be able to run three nozzles but you would not want to. The further away from the TB you place a nozzle more time you are allowing the water to evaporate and cool down the intake temps. The closer to the TB you put the nozzle the better detonitaon control you will have. So all you would have to do is to run two nozzles. One right after the intercooler and one right before the TB or right after. That will give you the most control. No it will not stretch it thin, the nozzles are located on the end of the piping thus you could run a 300 at the intercooler and a 200 at the TB or whatever you really would want to run. It allows for more options. Read more here:
First its old but alot of info:
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2871779
Second brand new info about dual nozzle setup:
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3240904
First its old but alot of info:
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2871779
Second brand new info about dual nozzle setup:
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3240904
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RE: Aquamist Water Injection Kit 1S from thettshop any good?
Originally Posted by Scott@USRT
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MAP is LESS accurate than MAF. A MAP sensor is reactive and simply reports the manifold pressure which may or may not correlate to engine load. The turbo has to spool and create pressure before the MAP sensor activates the WAI system. Meanwhile MAF delivers a signal instantaneously. This is especially important with a teeny K03 or K04 and less critical with a big turbo. Also, MAP is only an approximation of engine load. That's why standalone systems that use speed-density systems rely on MAP *and* TPS. You can easily have a high manifold pressure and little to no engine load with the throttle plate closing or totally closed. You can also have the throttle wide open and have little or no manifold pressure.
Again, MAP is LESS accurate. It's a little bit easier to connect for those squeemish about wiring, though.
As for the MAF sensor failing, has anybody ever reported that a MAF-based WAI complicated their situation? I've never gotten any such feedback in 4+ years of WAI experience.
You do! :thumbup: Ask anybody that's run a properly-spec'd system and tuned it!
I stress the specification aspect, btw, because that's something that makes all the difference. A couple of years ago the naysayers outvoiced the pioneers. Now, it's becoming more mainstream in VAG tuning circles -mostly due to USRT's spreading the gospel about it. :laugh:
MAP is LESS accurate than MAF. A MAP sensor is reactive and simply reports the manifold pressure which may or may not correlate to engine load. The turbo has to spool and create pressure before the MAP sensor activates the WAI system. Meanwhile MAF delivers a signal instantaneously. This is especially important with a teeny K03 or K04 and less critical with a big turbo. Also, MAP is only an approximation of engine load. That's why standalone systems that use speed-density systems rely on MAP *and* TPS. You can easily have a high manifold pressure and little to no engine load with the throttle plate closing or totally closed. You can also have the throttle wide open and have little or no manifold pressure.
Again, MAP is LESS accurate. It's a little bit easier to connect for those squeemish about wiring, though.
As for the MAF sensor failing, has anybody ever reported that a MAF-based WAI complicated their situation? I've never gotten any such feedback in 4+ years of WAI experience.
You do! :thumbup: Ask anybody that's run a properly-spec'd system and tuned it!
I stress the specification aspect, btw, because that's something that makes all the difference. A couple of years ago the naysayers outvoiced the pioneers. Now, it's becoming more mainstream in VAG tuning circles -mostly due to USRT's spreading the gospel about it. :laugh:guess maf is the way to go.
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