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Old Aug 17, 2011 | 05:26 PM
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Ive got a brand new Spec 6puck Stage-4 clutch and Spec billet aluminum lightweight single mass flywheel with a new friction plate on it for sale... e-mail me at FasterA4ThanUrs@gmail.com if you're interested...
 
Old Aug 17, 2011 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 1999A418T
yeah, mike, i read that pretty plainly from your other post: valeo ain't gonna cut it. thanks again! and my experience with it, over the course of about 500-600mi confirms it. it'll slip.

you have any recommendations? i'm looking at DXD/Southbend and RA4 at the moment.

i'll the need flywheel as well, of course. i'm also trying to get something with headroom, that will cover more than just what i have now. as for pedal...i guess i don't mind a stiffer pedal, but i don't intend on running 1/4mi's.

seems like RA4 is cheaper, and i wonder how they have such higher ratings (hp/tq) than an equivalent DXD/SB.
It has a higher rating because it is a 240mm clutch/flywheel setup while the SB is the stock 228mm size. Another good option is the Clutch Master kits, they too offer a 240mm kit that includes a 19 lbs billet steel flywheel vs a cast 12 lbs that ECS offers. With the quattro cars you really want the heavier flywheel.

Here is a link to the CM 240mm kit
 
Old Aug 17, 2011 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by FasterA4ThanUrs
Ive got a brand new Spec 6puck Stage-4 clutch and Spec billet aluminum lightweight single mass flywheel with a new friction plate on it for sale... e-mail me at FasterA4ThanUrs@gmail.com if you're interested...
Know anyone that wants to buy my spare 228mm Dual diaphram WOA 6 puck kit? Looks like I wont ever be putting that in my car since my Super Single is working out pretty good.
 
Old Aug 17, 2011 | 06:33 PM
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Maybe me, I freshened my Spec Stage 4 setup so its new, trying to sell that so I can get a CM fx850 or whatever, but I could **** with your other **** if it can hold power. Text me.
 
Old Aug 17, 2011 | 08:38 PM
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Well its the same type of PP setup I was running when I went 10.55 and then blew up with the hoosiers. Only difference is that it has a new CM 228mm 6 puck disk.
 
Old Aug 18, 2011 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike-2ptzero
Valeo clutch kit is just a OEM replacement, it doesn't hold any more then a stock clutch. Pointless using it for anything other then a fully stock K03.








Were you talking about the APR kit or the HTA?
Mike your advice on the products you sell and dont sell have been nothing less than great. I was referring to APR being vague with everything from the turbos to fuel injectors in the stage 3 kit.
 
Old Aug 18, 2011 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by FasterA4ThanUrs
Ive got a brand new Spec 6puck Stage-4 clutch and Spec billet aluminum lightweight single mass flywheel with a new friction plate on it for sale... e-mail me at FasterA4ThanUrs@gmail.com if you're interested...
thanks! but i think that might not be my cup of tea...the car spends all of it's time on the street. i dont know if that stage 4 is what i'm looking for, going off what spec has on the site (i admit i know very little here)

This unit is a solid hub version of the stage 3. The hub is solid 8-rivet and the assembly is heat treated for strength and durability. It is available in a 3, 4 or 6 puck configuration. Use the 3 puck for the lightest option or the 6 puck for the smoothest engagement. The 4 puck is a good compromise for both. Street drivable in 6 puck configuration, but not street friendly due to the rigid hub. Best for drag racing, road racing, pulling, rallye and drift.

you ever run it "regular" as a street/daily driver? unfortunately i'm also stuck in a major urban area (dc metro).

mike - that clutchmasters fx200 or fx300 looks really interesting. i think you've steered me clear of the RA4, but i think you've also pointed me toward a 240mm rather than a 228mm. which seems to mean the dxd/sb isn't a great option either. lol.

thanks guys, as always, extremely helpful. more homework to do still.
 

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Old Aug 18, 2011 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by dmaxn
Mike your advice on the products you sell and dont sell have been nothing less than great. I was referring to APR being vague with everything from the turbos to fuel injectors in the stage 3 kit.
Thanks and thats what I figured you were talking about. Problem is APR cycles so many people thru their shop most of the ones that get on the phone usually dont know all that much about the APR products. I guess that is one down side of a large company.


1999A418T - If you have any questions about the CM products dont hesitate to ask me, your more then welcome to PM, email or even call me on the phone 7 days a week.
 
Old Aug 25, 2011 | 04:08 PM
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thanks a lot mike.

after doing some homework, i think that fx300 is where i'm leaning.

here's question though - how do you get the torque ratings posted on ringer?

cm says the fx300 is 110% holding over stock...if stock is like 150, wouldn't a 110% increase be 310, not 525? maybe i just misunderstand...

the shop actually recommended the dxd/sb stage 2 daily, which supposedly holds 280. i'm over 280 now...sometimes i don't get these guys...they are really nice but sometimes i wonder...
 
Old Aug 25, 2011 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 1999A418T
thanks a lot mike.

after doing some homework, i think that fx300 is where i'm leaning.

here's question though - how do you get the torque ratings posted on ringer?

cm says the fx300 is 110% holding over stock...if stock is like 150, wouldn't a 110% increase be 310, not 525? maybe i just misunderstand...

the shop actually recommended the dxd/sb stage 2 daily, which supposedly holds 280. i'm over 280 now...sometimes i don't get these guys...they are really nice but sometimes i wonder...
That is because the 240mm kit uses the CM 2.7t Clutch kits, so it is 110% increase of 250 ft lbs which is what the S4 2.7t makes stock. You would be correct if you are just talking about the CM 228mm kit which has ratings based on the stock A4 1.8t hp of 150.

The CM 240mm kit holds more because the disk is slightly larger (240mm vs 228mm), which means it has more leverage. It also has 2200 lbs clamping pressure vs 1800 lbs for the 228mm A4 kit. You can find plenty of Stage 3 S4 2.7t owners running the same 240mm FX400 clutch kit, there are even vids of stage 3 S4's using that clutch while drag racing.

Not all shops are going to try and help you choose the right clutch kit vs just selling you what they want to make some money. To me customer service comes before sales.
 

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