took out the starter/ bench tested all compoinents / tested good/ new battery/ old starter (with good tests results) still no crank no start...

 

I'm telling you, I just went through the same thing. The starter will still spin on the bench because there is no load and they throw a gazzilion amps through it. I had two bad starters test good on the bench.

If you have a voltmeter or multimeter, check to make sure you have 12.5+ VDC across the big red wire that goes to the starter and the ground. Then, check the small red wire with a friend holding the key in the start position. If you get 12.5+ VDC, it's definitely the starter.

 

so i replaced the starter and still no crank no start. had the old starter tested at auto zone and the old one failed. so at least i do have a new working starter (they tested it and the new one passed) so now I'm lost. New battery/new starter. And I'm still at square one.

 

Did you test to see if you have voltage there when someone turns the key?

 

nah my buddy is coming over tomorrow. but i will keep you posted.

 

So, did you get it fixed? What was it?

 

Bad ground wire/ bad starter/bad ignition wire/ bad open circuit to back of engine.