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Old 02-14-2008, 08:23 PM
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first thing you should do is get those autolites out of there


why? this is why- https://www.audiforums.com/m_147151/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm
you should refrase that.. do not use autolite COPPER..we all know copper will fowl easy anyway, but i have always use autolite iridium on a .025 gap and have had great luck..but i have burnt a couple copper before, so i dont use those anymore
Copper's heat capacity makes for a great turbo application, and it's been established that single-ground copper NGK BKR*E make for the best plugs in our vehicles.

Why the hell are you running iridium plugs?
 
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Old 02-14-2008, 08:27 PM
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im running a colder plug, turbo users use coppers for a colder burn, but copper plugs will foul easily...im gapped low, with a colder plug..they seem to work alot better than the coppers i had in
 
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Old 02-14-2008, 08:28 PM
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iridiums create a quicker better spark, and colder if you buy the colder version...they outlast coppers and wont foul out or melt like some copper do
 
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Old 02-14-2008, 08:44 PM
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coppers only downside is that the tips degrade faster but thats why you change them more often. they are cheaper too. i run f6dtc's and have no problems running them for 20k+ miles. and they are 1/3 the cost of iridiums. and copper is better conductor of heat and spark than platinum or iridium, and its a stronger more efficient spark that tolerates a wider range of cylinder temps. the only reason people run platinum and iridium plugs is cause of their long life, they are generally not used in performance applications.
 
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Old 02-14-2008, 08:52 PM
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Kemp why don't you take a chemistry class and compare the properties of copper and iridium before you talk about how copper "melts"?

Here, let me run you through Chemistry 101:

Periodic Table of the Elements:

1357.77 K [or 1084.62 °C (1984.32 °F)]
At that temperature, the spark plugs melting should be the last of your concern. Granted, iridium DOES have a higher melting point, but the thermal conductivity is so much lower than coppers, which makes for a great susceptibility of damage done by heat created by turbochargers.

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Old 02-14-2008, 09:33 PM
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ok i was wrong, and you must give me credit for admitting that, but im not going to go buy copper asap
 
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Old 02-14-2008, 09:36 PM
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but tri-electrodes leave no room for fine tuning the gap, so i think ill stick to single electrodes

what plugs do you recomend
 
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Old 02-14-2008, 09:56 PM
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you can fine tune the gap if you wanted to, but with cars like the 034 vr6-t and the fastest a4 in the world, running a tri-electrode copper plug without gapping them, i see no need to. you can use a feeler gauge to make sure the gap is consistent, but they dont need actual gapping
 
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Old 02-14-2008, 10:04 PM
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ok, well you say you have no problems that usually lead to the gap?

and i am on ngk right now, what heat range, what electrode shape, and what shape ground do i want?
 
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Old 02-14-2008, 10:12 PM
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zero problems. http://www.ecstuning.com/stage/edpd/...mp;engine=1.8T

if you want to run a single electrode either the bkr6e or bkr7e will be good. the 7's are a colder plug
 


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