B5 Models Please discuss all 1996 - 2001 B5 A4 topics here...

springs for my a4 b5

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 30, 2013 | 02:25 PM
  #1  
Kenny Gerard's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
1st Gear
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 37
Default springs for my a4 b5

i have a 1998 a4 b5 2.8 quattro, recently i got into driving offroad.
when i look up springs all i can find is lowering kits, so my question is,
where can i find some springs to stiffen my suspension and maybe raise it by an inch?
is there a website where i put in the kind of springs i want and they have a pair to match tge specs?
what kind of springs do i need?
i know nothing about springs so i need a lot of clarification for this, thank you
 
Old Mar 30, 2013 | 03:29 PM
  #2  
bshusted's Avatar
2nd Gear
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 843
From: Kirkland, WA
Default

If you want to stiffen the ride and raise it up, you're going to be looking for coilovers. To get anything with reasonable quality and damping, you're going to spend some big money.

Another option to stiffen and maintain ride height, will be swapping for S4 springs and struts. You should be able to pick up a set of low mile equipment for pretty cheap. Ride height will be about the same, slightly lower.
 
Old Mar 30, 2013 | 08:59 PM
  #3  
M3Armand's Avatar
1st Gear
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 239
From: Boston, MA
Default

Originally Posted by bshusted
If you want to stiffen the ride and raise it up, ....
I believe coil overs and RAISING THE CAR are two mutually exclusive terms. They typically drop the car 1 inch at the highest setting.
 
Old Mar 30, 2013 | 09:34 PM
  #4  
MrSnickelsnizer's Avatar
1st Gear
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 100
From: Northern Michigan
Default

What m3 armand said. Coil overs are not your solution. In fact it is difficult to really say what would give you any lift on these cars. The design of the suspension is set up so that if you want any lift to happen, you would need to incorporate a longer tubed shock and possibly couple it with a heavier duty spring to make it raise the car. It would be way easier to show you honestly. I don't know of any companies selling an off the shelf kit like that. Also just changing to heavier duty springs won't give you any height. It will just make your car squat less under heavy acceleration, squat less when you have a lot of weight in the car, and in general will make the car ride more firmly. Not worth it at all to swap them, because of how tedious the process is. Sorry champ. If you wanted to make a rally car I would say firmer stock height shocks with heavy duty springs. Low and fast.
 
Old Mar 31, 2013 | 09:03 AM
  #5  
CCA4's Avatar
Administrator
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 7,588
From: NW PA
Default

Does your car have the OEM sport suspension? If so, you could raise the ride height a bit by swapping to non-sport shocks and springs.

If you're already on non-sport suspension you might try using spring spacers. I ran in a Rally Cross event at Summit Point last weekend and several of the guys there suggested this method because its cheap, easy, and effective. You can keep your OEM suspension for driving on the road, then when you want to drive off road you jack up each corner with the wheel still on and shove these rubber shims into the spaces between the coils of each spring. This serves to both stiffen the effective spring rate and raise the ride height. Then when you're done playing 4x4, jack up the car again and pop them out to get your OEM ride quality back for the drive home.

We used these on circle track race cars back when I was a tire monkey in high school and NASCAR used (not sure if they still do) similar technology at one time. With something like this, you could buy four of them and raise your whole car an inch for less than the cost of a tank of gas.
 
Old May 10, 2013 | 06:04 PM
  #6  
Kenny Gerard's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
1st Gear
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 37
Default

I work at a fabrication shop for windows, so i have access to some tools to make stuff.
Im thinking about going with a "C" Shaped piece of aluminum with a bolt attaching the open side together after installed.

How large should i go? Is it 1:1 Metal size: Height increase
 
Old May 10, 2013 | 09:05 PM
  #7  
Mad Cow's Avatar
2nd Gear
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 712
From: Toronto, Canada
Default

With the way the front suspension is designed I would seriously worry about lifting the car, at full extension there are some pretty crazy angles in the control arms and tie rods. Jack the front up and take the wheels off, now have someone turn the steering wheel while you look at the suspension. Every bushing flexes and the ball joints look like they're ready to pop out, combine that with offroad beating and you'll likely end up stuck somewhere with one of your wheels pointed in a completely different direction.
 
Old May 11, 2013 | 11:21 AM
  #8  
SquishyPanda's Avatar
1st Gear
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 18
From:
Default

Originally Posted by Mad Cow
With the way the front suspension is designed I would seriously worry about lifting the car, at full extension there are some pretty crazy angles in the control arms and tie rods. Jack the front up and take the wheels off, now have someone turn the steering wheel while you look at the suspension. Every bushing flexes and the ball joints look like they're ready to pop out, combine that with offroad beating and you'll likely end up stuck somewhere with one of your wheels pointed in a completely different direction.
I'd also worry about topping out the struts if you just put heavier springs on the stock struts and go thrashing around on dirt roads. Maybe you would need to rig up some kind of limit strap like dune buggies have?

Do rally car struts have some kind of internal bump stop so topping out doesn't blow the struts? Or do they not care since the struts get replaced frequently anyway?
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
porschenaround
B7 Models
7
Mar 9, 2018 07:59 PM
88notchblown
Archive - Wheels/Brakes/Suspension
4
Sep 27, 2009 01:34 PM
Quattro190
Archive - Wheels/Brakes/Suspension
1
Aug 11, 2008 11:57 AM
VW01AUDI00
Suspension
17
Mar 27, 2007 10:56 PM
jrac79
Audi A4
0
Feb 7, 2006 08:19 PM




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:55 AM.