I have a 2005 Audi A4 1.8T, and sometimes it can be discouraging to see all the other B6/B7 2.0T models. I'm curious how much of a difference that extra turbo makes in relation to performance and speed. Let me know, thanks!

 

I haven't driven a B7 A4, but I have driven a VW GTI with the 2.0T in it, and I was definitely impressed with that engine. It seemed to have power everywhere in the rev range - of course, the extra 30HP over my 1.8T didn't hurt either, but the main impression I was left with was that it almost didn't matter where you were on the tach; if you put your foot down, you were happy about it.

All that praise for the 2.0T aside, I'm not at all unhappy with my 1.8T - it's at least fast enough to get out of its own way, which, if I'm honest with myself, is all I really need. (Sure would like an APR Stage 1+, but do I *need* it? No.)

I don't have any direct comparison performance numbers for you, but I imagine the cars in question have probably been reviewed by Car & Driver, Motor Trend, etc, and you could compare numbers that way.

 

i've driven a handful of 2.0ts as well as 1.8ts...hell i own one

my friend has a 2.0t gti, and its fantastic. however the lack of awd and addition of the DSG makes it very hard to compare to a b7 2.0t.

my experience has been this-both the b6 and b7 are fantastic cars. having driven both of them with an automatic and manual, under any normal driving, the differences between the engines have been very hard to detect. the only way you notice the 30 extra ponies in the 2.0t is while passing at highway speeds.

IIRC the b6s are about 170hp/180 ft-lbs while the b7s are 200hp/210 ft-lbs.

for what its worth i dont think the price differences between the two (in the current pre owned market) is worth it for the b7. but i do love the way that they look

 

Thanks for the responses guys, it was good to look at it from a couple different perspectives.

 

What extra turbo are you talking about? Both the 1.8t and 2.0T have a single turbo.

The 1.8t is actually more mod friendly. The 2.0T FSI has carbon build up issues along with issues of the high pressure fuel pump cam follower failing.

Let me know when a 2.0T FSI A4 is running mid 10's in the 1/4 mile.

If you want more power out of your 1.8t just put a Elim kit on it and you will be running low 13's and high 12's with it. If you want more power then that just throw in a set of aftermarket rods and go with a BAT setup. I am even offering a Twin Scroll Tube manifold setup from Full-Race that is built for the new EFR Twin scroll turbos.

 

Theres also a big difference from wanting some more power and building a race car...

Just throw in a set of aftermarket rods...? Cause its as simple as changing your oil.

 

Yes. But then putting an elim kit on a 1.8t isn't exactly building a race car, either is putting a BAT setup on a 1.8t that is used for the street. Thats why there are plenty of 300-450whp A4 1.8t's running around. I have driven plenty of 300+whp A4's my self and those were daily drivers, even driven a few of them down the 1/4 mile. My own A4 was my daily driver at 500whp, it was the only car I had at the time and was my work car.

Didn't say upgrading the rods on a 1.8t was easy like changing the oil, I know people that cant even change their own oil. But plenty of A4 1.8t owners have installed their own rods right in their own garage. Even having a shop do it for you it will only cost around $1000-$1500 covering labor/parts.

 

I'm sorry to ask such a newb question but im new to euro cars...well turbo cars in general really...but what is an eliminator kit and what does it do?

 

The Eliminator kit is a turbo kit that is basically a Garrett turbo that has a custom exhaust housing that will allow the bolt the turbo to the stock manifold or a stock high flow replacement manifold. It is a much larger turbo that will turn your 150-170chp A4 into a A4 that makes 350+chp.