Picking the right turbo
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Picking the right turbo
Ok so im going with 440 file and injectors for now till i build my engine. I decided to go semi small for now just so i wont blow the engine. My question is will this turbo bolt on to stock manifold?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GT28R...spagenameZWDVW
If not could someone point me in the direction of a good manifold that it would be compliant with?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GT28R...spagenameZWDVW
If not could someone point me in the direction of a good manifold that it would be compliant with?
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I thought you already had a turbo from your "BT friday" thread?
Anyway, you do NOT want to go with an eBay turbo. That is NOT a real GT28, it's a Chinese knockoff; a real GT28 is twice the price of that. Those turbos sometimes last, but only if you lay off the PSI (read: lay off the power). Anything more than 10 PSI or so tends to start destroying them.
Anyway, you're looking for power without swapping internals? Try a T3 60 trim it's pretty much the equivalent of a GT28 and I picked up one
(props to cincy for all the advice on it). You can get authentic Garrett ones (read: they'll run 25+ PSI and not start blowing up) for roughly the same as what that turbo costs, or brand new for $700 off ATP.
They'll make 300whp easy and spool just past 3000RPM. Dyno on stock internals, 93 octane, 25 psi...mind you watermeth can kick this a lot higher:
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The only thing that fits stock is the ATP eliminator, and that's junk, much like the stock manifold. I'm not sure what cheap manifolds there are with T25 flanges, but I know ATP makes a cast (doesn't crack like welded) mani with a T3 flange for just under $400 if I remember. I can't seem to get on their site right now else I'd look.
Anyway, you do NOT want to go with an eBay turbo. That is NOT a real GT28, it's a Chinese knockoff; a real GT28 is twice the price of that. Those turbos sometimes last, but only if you lay off the PSI (read: lay off the power). Anything more than 10 PSI or so tends to start destroying them.
Anyway, you're looking for power without swapping internals? Try a T3 60 trim it's pretty much the equivalent of a GT28 and I picked up one
(props to cincy for all the advice on it). You can get authentic Garrett ones (read: they'll run 25+ PSI and not start blowing up) for roughly the same as what that turbo costs, or brand new for $700 off ATP.They'll make 300whp easy and spool just past 3000RPM. Dyno on stock internals, 93 octane, 25 psi...mind you watermeth can kick this a lot higher:
My question is will this turbo bolt on to stock manifold?
The only thing that fits stock is the ATP eliminator, and that's junk, much like the stock manifold. I'm not sure what cheap manifolds there are with T25 flanges, but I know ATP makes a cast (doesn't crack like welded) mani with a T3 flange for just under $400 if I remember. I can't seem to get on their site right now else I'd look.
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Yeah, i would stay away from something that is not a garrett, borg warner or maybe even turbonetics. The t3 60 trim, gt28rs, or t3s60 (from turbonetics and is just a hairmore potentialthan a t3 60trim) would be the biggest turbos you can get that will spool fast and you can run to their peaks without breaking stuff.
That looks like Dan's dyno (gt-er).
That looks like Dan's dyno (gt-er).
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my friend is parting his turbo del sol and has a brand new t3/t4 62trim ...would that be an okay turbo to go with (id get it for next to nothing)? cost aside, when im totally done with the car i wanna be near 300ish but really shooting for 25+ i have a 180 and i know i need different injectors and exhaust manifold but would that be a good turbo to start with? what else would i need?
exhaust manifold
injectors
chipping for new setup
what else am i missing? do i need internal work for a 180 to do that? i just want a really fun street car that can make decent power
exhaust manifold
injectors
chipping for new setup
what else am i missing? do i need internal work for a 180 to do that? i just want a really fun street car that can make decent power
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ORIGINAL: Murderface
I thought you already had a turbo from your "BT friday" thread?
Anyway, you do NOT want to go with an eBay turbo. That is NOT a real GT28, it's a Chinese knockoff; a real GT28 is twice the price of that. Those turbos sometimes last, but only if you lay off the PSI (read: lay off the power). Anything more than 10 PSI or so tends to start destroying them.
Anyway, you're looking for power without swapping internals? Try a T3 60 trim it's pretty much the equivalent of a GT28 and I picked up one (props to cincy for all the advice on it). You can get authentic Garrett ones (read: they'll run 25+ PSI and not start blowing up) for roughly the same as what that turbo costs, or brand new for $700 off ATP.
They'll make 300whp easy and spool just past 3000RPM. Dyno on stock internals, 93 octane, 25 psi...mind you watermeth can kick this a lot higher:
[sm=smiley22.gif]
The only thing that fits stock is the ATP eliminator, and that's junk, much like the stock manifold. I'm not sure what cheap manifolds there are with T25 flanges, but I know ATP makes a cast (doesn't crack like welded) mani with a T3 flange for just under $400 if I remember. I can't seem to get on their site right now else I'd look.
I thought you already had a turbo from your "BT friday" thread?
Anyway, you do NOT want to go with an eBay turbo. That is NOT a real GT28, it's a Chinese knockoff; a real GT28 is twice the price of that. Those turbos sometimes last, but only if you lay off the PSI (read: lay off the power). Anything more than 10 PSI or so tends to start destroying them.
Anyway, you're looking for power without swapping internals? Try a T3 60 trim it's pretty much the equivalent of a GT28 and I picked up one
(props to cincy for all the advice on it). You can get authentic Garrett ones (read: they'll run 25+ PSI and not start blowing up) for roughly the same as what that turbo costs, or brand new for $700 off ATP.They'll make 300whp easy and spool just past 3000RPM. Dyno on stock internals, 93 octane, 25 psi...mind you watermeth can kick this a lot higher:
My question is will this turbo bolt on to stock manifold?
The only thing that fits stock is the ATP eliminator, and that's junk, much like the stock manifold. I'm not sure what cheap manifolds there are with T25 flanges, but I know ATP makes a cast (doesn't crack like welded) mani with a T3 flange for just under $400 if I remember. I can't seem to get on their site right now else I'd look.
Yah I have 2 turbo just sitting but i think there both going to be to big. I was rethinking the whole thing and I want my car to be all around not just spool at 5k+ so right now im in the process of looking for another turbo.
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RE: Picking the right turbo
ORIGINAL: foxrcng11
my friend is parting his turbo del sol and has a brand new t3/t4 62trim ...would that be an okay turbo to go with (id get it for next to nothing)? cost aside, when im totally done with the car i wanna be near 300ish but really shooting for 25+ i have a 180 and i know i need different injectors and exhaust manifold but would that be a good turbo to start with? what else would i need?
exhaust manifold
injectors
chipping for new setup
what else am i missing? do i need internal work for a 180 to do that? i just want a really fun street car that can make decent power
my friend is parting his turbo del sol and has a brand new t3/t4 62trim ...would that be an okay turbo to go with (id get it for next to nothing)? cost aside, when im totally done with the car i wanna be near 300ish but really shooting for 25+ i have a 180 and i know i need different injectors and exhaust manifold but would that be a good turbo to start with? what else would i need?
exhaust manifold
injectors
chipping for new setup
what else am i missing? do i need internal work for a 180 to do that? i just want a really fun street car that can make decent power
I'm make believe
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RE: Picking the right turbo
ORIGINAL: ooantipostoo
Yah I have 2 turbo just sitting but i think there both going to be to big. I was rethinking the whole thing and I want my car to be all around not just spool at 5k+ so right now im in the process of looking for another turbo.
Yah I have 2 turbo just sitting but i think there both going to be to big. I was rethinking the whole thing and I want my car to be all around not just spool at 5k+ so right now im in the process of looking for another turbo.
cost
power
spool
stock internals
and so on
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i have seen a T3 Super 70 Trim ...
here is the link http://cgi.ebay.ca/T3-Super-T-70-Tur...QQcmdZViewItem
and yes i know this is straing from china sold out of USA. but im wondering here "hypothetically" if this a true option offered by the REAL makers of the turbo. what would it compare to a t3s60trim? assuming that the AR is the same... negate the .84 ar on this one i was thinking around 0.48 to 0.63
here is the link http://cgi.ebay.ca/T3-Super-T-70-Tur...QQcmdZViewItem
and yes i know this is straing from china sold out of USA. but im wondering here "hypothetically" if this a true option offered by the REAL makers of the turbo. what would it compare to a t3s60trim? assuming that the AR is the same... negate the .84 ar on this one i was thinking around 0.48 to 0.63
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RE: Picking the right turbo
ORIGINAL: cincyTT
what do you want?
cost
power
spool
stock internals
and so on
ORIGINAL: ooantipostoo
Yah I have 2 turbo just sitting but i think there both going to be to big. I was rethinking the whole thing and I want my car to be all around not just spool at 5k+ so right now im in the process of looking for another turbo.
Yah I have 2 turbo just sitting but i think there both going to be to big. I was rethinking the whole thing and I want my car to be all around not just spool at 5k+ so right now im in the process of looking for another turbo.
cost
power
spool
stock internals
and so on