ORIGINAL: Palindariā„¢

this kinda took a turn here...

My point, Sarah, is that for years blacks (and most minorities) were treated lower than second class citizens for decades until the Martin Luther King movement in the 60's. Some still feel that way and that little has changed - that I truly beg to differ. Even Bill Cosby agrees with me on that point - the only American of black roots that has been wildly successful and worth millions and is willingly to stand up against most black activists.

We've inadvertantly allowed channels that are race specifictohave arisen out of guilt perhaps or simple compensation - but now need to wiped away or restructured. The race card is used whenever there seems to be some political advantage to be had when these changes are brought about.

Like all pendulums when held to one side it swings pretty far to the other sidewhen let go. We need to let it ease to the middle.

You are right, there should be no race based venues. Because that's something you cannot change. As for other language channels - I see little harm for they cater to a very small select few - mostly for those that don't know English. Religious stations are fine - as long as anyone can belong to that particular faith.

ORIGINAL: BaconBait

This is why I believe in an eye for 2 eyes.

ORIGINAL: Trey25

What those criminals did was just plain wrong, regardless of race. I hope they are fried for it. Yes there is obviously a double standard in society and it is upsetting. But remember this isn't a perfect world where everyone is looked upon equally, far from it. Thats why the race card will continue to be played when crap like the Duke Lacrosse "scandal" comes up. Is it fair for either side? No, thats the kind of backwards society we still live in. Personally I think that chick was a lying ***** but anyways...The likes of Al Sharpton and other hypocrites are not representive of blacks. So don't go thinking all blacks and other minority groups think like they do. The whole "why can't we get our own TV station" thing is backwards thinking really. Like whites, the majority, don't already control the media. So what if minorities want to have their own little niche so to speak, God knows minorities have been abused and disenfranchised throughout this nation's history. Why can't they have ethnic oriented TV stations? That would be same as saying it is wrong for a Little China, Little Italy, Little Havana, etc to exist. Its both a source of cultural pride and segregation at the same time, so be it. Listen everyone is entitled to their own opinion, ignorantly racist or not, but thats ok. God knows this world would suck *** if we all thought the same way.

Sorry about the essay lol

ORIGINAL: AWDaholic

Two seperate issues, IMHO.

1) Hate crimes ARE hate crimes. No 2 ways about it. If *I* were running things they would ALL suffer the same as those they committed those atrocities against.

2) BET, while hopeless mired in stereotypes that would have been seen as reprehensible 30-35 years ago, is not the enemy of racial harmony. In intent, it permits a venue for non-mainstream producers, directors, actors, comics, etc, that they do not have access to elsewhere. Take a moment and look around you at the racial diversity (people in IN, NE, WI, and a few other states, who live OUTSIDE of college-towns or major metropolitan areas, you are excused from this exercise, until school lets back in) readily apparent in normal life. NOW, sit down and watch any of the main TV channels, broadcast or cable/satellite, and tell me if you see ANYwhere near the same racial diversity represented in mainstream media? You will NOT! Now, most of you will create in your minds all sorts of excuses for this, justifyable, you will say to yourselves, backed up by whatever lame-assed argument you have ponied up. You want W.E.T.? It's ALL W.E.T., ALL the time. Always has been. Of course, since YOU are in the cultural majority, you see nothing wrong with this, and easily point to anything outside this cultural majority as "unfail" because you don't have one ALL your own.

Quicher bichin'! Oh, and SPARE me that tired-***'d "I never owned any slaves," line. I never took ANY "affirmative-action" preferential positioning, either, but, I bet all you phugkin losers who see someone of color who DOES have some chedder in the bank, and professional respect due, ASSUME they got it through Affermative-Action, don't you?!?!? Punk-*** *****-phugkas. I make my OWN way! I don't NEED Affirmative Action to pave my way for me. YOU, a member of the cultural majority, don't have to step up to a job interview and wonder how prejudiced the HR-asshat your talking to, is. 10% of you control 90% of the wealth, and when I come to the table with my OWN, you snicker behind your backs and poke each other in the ribs and whisper "affirmative-action." KISS MY ***!!! I EARNED THIS! Earn your OWN, and quit making excuses for your inadequacies!!! I've got 400 years of repression, subjugation, and downright unfair-ness to overcome ON A DAILY BASIS. You have, what, a couple-dozen years of slightly favorable rules that STILL haven't begun st scratch the surface, and you CRY about it. WEAKLINGS!

GROW A SPINE!

edyt: if the tone had stayed with the outrage at the crimes committed I cudda stayed with you, but, you digresses, so I did. SOME of you dissapoint me.

ORIGINAL: vnv727

wow this went personal fast, i was merely pointing out that there was langauge in one of your statements of the white majority coming the minority and how that could be seen as racist, because why would that bother u if you felt all races were equal..........i wasnt calling u or anyone else a racists just merely pointing out why some people who say similar things say them....thats all, meant no harm or to accuse anyone of anything

ORIGINAL: vnv727

good, glad to hear it[sm=icon_cheers.gif]....there is always an inherent risk when talking about politics or religion to confuse the issue with the person and i just wanted to make sure u understood that