no its a stroker kit, that STROKES the motor not just boreing it out..... and the reason we dont build our motors is becasue the stock bottom end can hold probably 400hp so why mess with it if your not gunna up the boost a ton

 

That is the stupidest thing i have heard. A fu*kin stock or for your sake chipped 1.8t kicks hard at 3k, and if it kicks hard while not in boost at 3k what does it do when in boost, break all four wheels loose and get sideways with an chip. Must be a 93oct chip to do that.

As far as building the engine and not having enough money to do a BT, unless you do it yourself it would cost jsut as much if not more than a BT. And the only thing you would gain is a fresh engine, reliability and ready to go for a BT and high boost, but adds 0 hp.

 

First off, dont be an a$$. if u wanna flame, go to a chip question. 2nd, its relativley speaking. everything is relative. take physics and ull understand. when i say it kicks hard, i mean relative to what a car would do without VVT or V-Tec going through the RPM range. there is defanitly a boost in power that comes on suddenly. And i would do it myself. and it doesnt ad 0 HP. read above. when i mean building a motor, i dont mean stronger gaskets and stronger parts. i mean more high pergormance, lighter parts. different cams, and the like. you my friend, need ot chill and not be an a$$ on the forums where people come to talk about cars that they all like. chill out Mr. huge poast number

 

you can run a bt set up on a stock block and be fine with lots of hp. that makes more sense then spending the same amount for a very strong motor but very little power gaines compaired to a bt.

 

Not to be a d!ck or anything, if you put in Cams with a bigger lift will your chip compensate for it, no. Yes putting in forged rods, pistons, rings, bearings, cams, stronger head studs is normal when doing an engine build. Who would do an "engine build" and just replace gaskets for someone who is thriving more HP. Yes you will see a little improvement, but is all it worth it when you can do a BT upgrade for half the cost. Also ask any of the 2.0l guys if they thought they gobbed huge hp form there motor. I have read over and over before that how much it costs to do a 2.0l conversion and how much money it costs to only gain 15-20hp And no they just didn't do a 2.0l conversion with stronger gaskets.

 

You have a ko3 turbo, when are you not in boost? They spool almost at fvcking idle! And like trailboss said, the efficiency of the turbo ends around 6500rpms. So building your engine to be able to rev higher would be pointless on your stock setup. That is what trailboss is saying. And I have ridden in the newer a4's with the vvt, and there is no hard kick whatsoever. You want a kick, go ride in a vtec honda with a single stage manifold. Those actually had a little kick.

Yeah but look at how much he has spent for that extra 50hp. No intake, header, im, and exhaust will give you even 30hp on a stock honda, so he must have cams and headwork too....which puts him around 2k. You got an extra 50hp out of your car with a chip and exhaust.

And to build your engine, you are going to spend probably well over 5k for parts and machine work for maybe 25hp. Not to mention, what are you going to use to tune the car? Drop another 1500 on a standalone setup and hope to god you can even get the car running? When instead, you could just buy a bt setup for around 3k and have exactly what you want.

 

^^ LMAO!

dude just use the sand method to port and polish your manifold...

 

I am with trailboss on this one.

Audicross you are so way off on what you want to do.

Our engines are turbo engines.. The way you build a turbo engine is a little different from the way you build a NA engine.

Example... Go and increase your compression so you can make MORE POWER from the the MOTOR and then see what happens? Go bump your compression to 11.0:1 and let us know how it runs.

It is all about boost here son.... You build it, so you can BOOST IT!

NA motor builds (Especailly for a 4 banger) has so much less bang for buck than turbo applications.

 

putting high compression pistons and rings on a turbo will tear your engine apart. i never said do that. my friend bought an acura with a built motor, that a buy slapped a turbo on afterwards. now it cant run down the road.

and everyone talking about how i sid "kick," read above. i dont mean a huge one. but a noticeable one. and building a engine that will rev higher. THEN putting a big turbo on will work out. if i say something here, it doesnt mean thats the one and ONLY thing i am planning on doing.

People: dont come here just to flame some. its pointless. i am here, alone with others, to learn about what to do and what can be done to our cars. everything that people currently do is from testing and learning.

if you want to flame someone, go to a newb poasting a chip question. dont flame where people are asking senceable, logical questions.

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