Wheel n tire Set up Question

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Oct 21, 2011 | 10:18 AM
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I saw some nice Gallardo Reps but they are 19x8 with ET 35 offset. I know the stock 19's are 19x8.5. Has anyone ran a similar set up or would it make a noticable difference goign from 19x8.5 to 19x8? Thanks
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Oct 21, 2011 | 06:14 PM
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OEM wheels have 45mm offset, so wheels would stand outwards 10mm more...but with 8" instead of 8.5", that should be more like only 4mm more.

Difference in driving would likely be undetectable...a little less "stretch" to fit same size tires. General rule is: the more stretch, the quicker turn-in...faster response and hair more tread "bent" toward the road. I doubt anyone would actually feel such a small difference and the slightly wider stance would offset that anyway.
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Oct 22, 2011 | 12:39 AM
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I would only add that the tire size will actually make as much difference (possibly more depending on size) as the actual wheel dimensions.

Let's assume you have a stock fitment of 19X8.5 ET45 wheel (i.e. Turbines) with stock 255/40R19 tires.

If you mounted the same stock tire on a 19X8.0 ET 35 rim, your net would be the entire footprint moved outward .2 inches over the original setup. The outer edge would be .2 inches closer to the edge of the fender, and you would open up the inner clearance .2 inches from the wheel well liner at the same time.


I hope that helps a little.


p.s. Do you have pics of the wheels? I considered these, but never found any pictures I could use to get a really good sense of what they might look like on an A8.
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Oct 22, 2011 | 09:55 AM
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Quote: I would only add that the tire size will actually make as much difference (possibly more depending on size) as the actual wheel dimensions.

Let's assume you have a stock fitment of 19X8.5 ET45 wheel (i.e. Turbines) with stock 255/40R19 tires.

If you mounted the same stock tire on a 19X8.0 ET 35 rim, your net would be the entire footprint moved outward .2 inches over the original setup. The outer edge would be .2 inches closer to the edge of the fender, and you would open up the inner clearance .2 inches from the wheel well liner at the same time.
Uh...what did I miss? ..isn't that almost exactly what I just said?

"Outwards 4mm" (.2 inches = 5mm...close enough)...with "same size tires" on the new dimension/offset rims.

Sorry, but was anything lost or gained in the "translation" ?
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Oct 22, 2011 | 11:34 PM
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Quote: Uh...what did I miss? ..isn't that almost exactly what I just said?

"Outwards 4mm" (.2 inches = 5mm...close enough)...with "same size tires" on the new dimension/offset rims.

Sorry, but was anything lost or gained in the "translation" ?
I was merely pointing out that tire size is an issue also. There was no mention by the OP that they were staying with the stock tire fitment, or that they were not.

Tire size needs to be considered, in addition to the wheel dimensions, because a radical (or even moderate) change can make a significant difference. Let's say the OP went with a 305/35R19 tire size on the new wheel (not that they said they were, let's just say...). When compared to stock rim & tire, the larger tire's outer edge would be nearly 1 1/4 inches outward toward the fender, and the inside edge would be over 3/4 inches closer to the fender liner on the new wheel. Meanwhile, the difference you pointed out for the new rim's have not changed beyond what you stated. That makes tire size an important consideration, I think.

That's why I pointed it out. If anything, I was supporting your post with additional info. Not arguing it.

Hope that helps. Carry on...
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Oct 23, 2011 | 10:51 AM
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I was "kinda" messin with ya

But yes tire size is incredibly important, esp with the mistaken belief that wider is better, no matter what. Very, VERY wrong way to look at it.

..And just for additional (not argumentative) info to consider:
Going wider than a rim should really accommodate may result in a lot of meat on the street and a cushy ride. But, how far the tire protrudes or how close the tire gets to the fender is just a minor consideration. The horrible, delayed-action handling that results from over-sizing on a given rim is unpleasant and downright dangerous..not mention it actually turns up the outer part of the tread patch that is supposed to be on the road, resulting in inefficient use of the factory design tread pattern and improper tread wear.

I've always gone with seeing to it that there's a bit of stretch on fit of the tire to the rim...within reason, the size that is still the proper rolling diameter, but favors a little stretch instead of just overall width....a stretch fit results in crisper/quicker, more predictable handling. ...Again, within reason...you can overdo any good idea.
If a wider patch is the #1 concern, more for overall forward and braking traction, THEN one should start with the widest rim that will work and THEN choose a proper diameter tire that will fit within the rim, with little or no overhang to negate quick handling.
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Oct 23, 2011 | 09:22 PM
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Quote: I was merely pointing out that tire size is an issue also. There was no mention by the OP that they were staying with the stock tire fitment, or that they were not.

Tire size needs to be considered, in addition to the wheel dimensions, because a radical (or even moderate) change can make a significant difference. Let's say the OP went with a 305/35R19 tire size on the new wheel (not that they said they were, let's just say...). When compared to stock rim & tire, the larger tire's outer edge would be nearly 1 1/4 inches outward toward the fender, and the inside edge would be over 3/4 inches closer to the fender liner on the new wheel. Meanwhile, the difference you pointed out for the new rim's have not changed beyond what you stated. That makes tire size an important consideration, I think.

That's why I pointed it out. If anything, I was supporting your post with additional info. Not arguing it.

Hope that helps. Carry on...
ahaha thanks guys for the infor here is a link to the wheels and the guy said he would take $850 for them. they are nice
------------>Audi VW Wheels - Rims Lamborghini 19 in Flat black!

I laos decided to go with a different set up Hartman 20x9 HRS6-204-GS with ET 35. I also have some 245/45/20 tires laying around im thinking about putting them on. Any suggestions on that tire set up?
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Oct 23, 2011 | 10:36 PM
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Quote: ahaha thanks guys for the infor here is a link to the wheels and the guy said he would take $850 for them. they are nice
------------>Audi VW Wheels - Rims Lamborghini 19 in Flat black!

I laos decided to go with a different set up Hartman 20x9 HRS6-204-GS with ET 35. I also have some 245/45/20 tires laying around im thinking about putting them on. Any suggestions on that tire set up?
WAY off! 1.7 inches too tall compared to stock...that's a LOT!!

For instance, 255/35/20 would be exactly the right diameter.

You really need to look at a tire size calculator to understand. Try to stay somewhere near the stock tire diameter.

Here's an example (link below)...type that size (245/45/20) compared to stock 19 tires (255/40/19):

Tire Size Calculator - tire & wheel plus sizing
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Oct 23, 2011 | 11:10 PM
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Quote: WAY off! 1.7 inches too tall compared to stock...that's a LOT!!

For instance, 255/35/20 would be exactly the right diameter.

You really need to look at a tire size calculator to understand. Try to stay somewhere near the stock tire diameter.

Here's an example (link below)...type that size (245/45/20) compared to stock 19 tires (255/40/19):

Tire Size Calculator - tire & wheel plus sizing
Wow thanks man you always come through with the good info. Ill make sure to bookmark that page
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