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2005 A8 3.0 tdi broken chain guide

Old 02-02-2011, 12:54 PM
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Default 2005 A8 3.0 tdi broken chain guide

hi im a mechanic working for an independant garage and just had a A8 3.0tdi quattro with only 40k on the clock and will not start the code 16725 camshaft signal implausible is logged. the customer had taken it to some audi specialist who said there is a problem with the cam timing due to a chain problem.On recieving the vehicle and chatting to customer ascertained that the cam sensor had been changed and wiring checked.
Knowing what goes on in certain workshops i decided to recheck the wiring and when i saw that the tamperproof metal bracket on the ecu had not been removed i knew it was unlikely the wiring had been checked properly.i found no problem with the wiring and decided to remove the engine to check the cam timing.Working alone with no workshop manuals at hand and no experience on this vehicle or engine but still managed to remove the
engine,gearbox,cradle,driveshafts,hubs and wiring as a unit in 6 hours.
Finally got to the nitty gritty after removing both rear cam covers and saw that the left hand bank chain guide had broken causing the chain to be slack and advancing the timing on that cam.(the tensioner and guide are one unit)
thats as far as i have got with it so far and now have to remove the gearbox,flywheel and rear timing chain cover to check for foriegn objects and if any other parts of the chain drive has been damaged before i price up the parts at audi.I am surprised to see this sort of problem on a vehicle with such low mileage

The question i would like to ask is this a common problem with this engine?

Do other Audi chain driven engines have this problem?
Old 02-02-2011, 04:19 PM
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There are similar units in US A8/S8 petrol models (and other Audi/VW) with variable intake timing...a few have failed, but mainly at much higher mileage.
The 3.0L Tdi only came to the US in 2009 and only on Q7's...no US A8 has ever had a Tdi engine.
Might get more specific info on that engine over in the Q7 forum(?)
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